Hi guys, I have a 1996 H22 civic ex right with bored 2.4L engine and a few other mods ... you may see me in the other forums here like 1996 civic and prelude ... but heres my main point.


I was perusing eBay a few days ago, and noticed this 2006 SI salvage title right next to my house. After work today I met with the seller just to check it out, since we both live in San Diego coincidentally. So, the car was real, that it was. 5000 miles, red color, and the upgraded 17" rims, for $14,000


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...h=004

in the salvage title description, the seller says all they had to replace was a rear taillight and the airbags ... but I know they don't salvage vehicles for just a taillight and airbags ...

anyways, he drove up and met me with it ... the right side both rims are scraped up, which is concealed in the pictures as the shadows are always on the right side of the vehicle.

Also, when he drove up, and away, the vehicle was making loud exhaust sounds, I've never heard an SI before, but i highly doubt this was stock, and he said there was a DC exhaust ... but hes the second owner and I don't think he really knew exactly what was on it since he said in person there was a cold intake, but never mentioned this in the vehicle description.

Also, he never said why he was selling it, and he is the second owner ... so I was curious to this but didn't ask since we only met for a few minutes ...

anyways, its up for the taking if anyone wants it! lets hear your opinion on this vehicle if its worth it ... i could defenitely offer him a little lower than that, but he is firm on the 14. NOTE: It was 15 the previous time listed on eBay but no takers so the price was lowered ...

ALSO, the seller types in all CAPS which ensured me he doesn't also post here

 

don't do it

 

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im not either ... what price would you pay? I was thinking $11 or maybe a little higher .. since the second owned in a few months wants to sell it so bad, im thinking meahanical or frame problems ... even though I was assured there is "no frame damage," its an as is sale, i dont think assurances hold in court.

 

I say go for it

 

if yor interested tell the seller you want to take the car to get it checked out....thats what i would do..

 

i know the seller his name is ramon carlos ortega or something like that , its his job tho he sells salvage cars .... good comunication but not a 100% honest person , car is fine as far as engine goes , he doesnt sell damged cars mechanicle wise but im sure that car had a big hit probly enough for the insurance to claim it totaled and he rebuilded it and reselling it for profit , and look at the air bags im sure he didnt replace them i just probly fixed them comesticly hit me up if you got any more questions about him....

all in all i'd say the car being a salvage it has to be 50 % the cost of what a new one cost to buy. because a insurance will charge you as if its a new car but values it 30% less then a clean title ... so 30% less would be around 7 thousand dollars... i dont know how much a si should cost so just consider the cost of the si but by half again any ? let me know oh and say GUSTAVO/raul said hi and lets see his reaction... btw please check the car detailedly for doors hanging paint being good or bad interior well a good check inspection...

 

As long as the frame and motor are fine, thats a pretty sweet deal.

 

I would say that its not worth it. Luckily you had the advantage of seeing it in person but i would always stay away from a wrecked car. and what does the airbags replaced cosmetically mean? Does that mean he just replaced the plastic covers and no airbags underneath? No Insurance Company total a new car with 5000k for light rear end damage. The only other possibility is the orginal owner was in a wreck and didnt want the car because of the damage and then sold it to them, I dunno. I think that got bad news written all over it.

 

looks good from the outside, i'd just get it looked at by a professional.

 

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We've bought plenty of wrecked cars and insurance companies total cars all the time. Sometimes they have absolutely nothing wrong other than a busted light. On the flip side many times clean title cars are pretty fucked up. My Mustang was bought wrecked and it was fucked to hell in the front. Drives great now. My mom's Accord was hit all over but not too terribly hard and it still has a clean title. Unless you plan on selling it soon I don't see why people are scared of wrecked/salvage cars. I've never seen a car ride/handle bad because it was wrecked and the "frame" was "bent."

 

would a carfax report work?

if you're really interested in the car... i'd at least get that done... and then if it's not enough to convince you, but yet you're still interested, i'd have the seller take you and the car to a shop that you're familiar with to have them check it out inside and out.

 

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if you're really interested in the car... i'd at least get that done... and then if it's not enough to convince you, but yet you're still interested, i'd have the seller take you and the car to a shop that you're familiar with to have them check it out inside and out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It wouldn't really tell you anything besides the fact that it was wrecked. If you could get some pictures of it before the wreck and examine them. It doesn't sound like it was hit too hard at all. At least it didn't look like this

 

it's definitely a gamble

 

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It wouldn't really tell you anything besides the fact that it was wrecked. If you could get some pictures of it before the wreck and examine them. It doesn't sound like it was hit too hard at all. At least it didn't look like this

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Light Pole/Tree/Sign: 1 Mustang: 0

Jon

 

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Light Pole/Tree/Sign: 1 Mustang: 0

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LOL I don't know what the hell happened to it but the guy definitely fucked up The wreck missed the motor by about 2 inches so it's all good. Car runs like a champ now

 

As many airbags cars have nowadays, it doesnt take much to total out a car. Airbags are expensive. slight body damage and most airbag deployment can total out a car.

If all the doors and body panels alighn correctly and the frame is straight. Itmight not be a bad deal. But you are stuck with a SALVAGE title and will never sell it for what you want.

 

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comesticly means that he just repaired it to appearnce rather then replacing the entire air big so ex the air bag on the sterring goes on he'll just make the streering wheel look normal cosmestically but no acutall air bag..... alto i do have to disagree with you a wrecked car is a good deal IF you pay for it the half the cost (assuming its a salvage/rebuild) AND its in perfect working conditions
and either the car was totaled big time or the original owener just fought the company saying that he / she didnt want the car and knowing its a new one he she had full coverage insuarance will give you a new one . so when ever you have a new car and its stolen or someting it benefits you , this is coming from someone that knows car insurances

hello isnt the OP listing i know this guy lol so what ever the car cost new same exact pakage noting less /more then pay what it should cost but half of it , remember insuarance will charge the same but values it 30% less there fore about 7gs ,and caveman as far as resell its ok cuz what helps a car is putting aftermarket parts that makes it great . SOME people dont have time to look for parts build install them / or dont know , so they just look for a fixed up car and buy it off the seller.

 

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We've bought plenty of wrecked cars and insurance companies total cars all the time. Sometimes they have absolutely nothing wrong other than a busted light. On the flip side many times clean title cars are pretty fucked up. My Mustang was bought wrecked and it was fucked to hell in the front. Drives great now. My mom's Accord was hit all over but not too terribly hard and it still has a clean title. Unless you plan on selling it soon I don't see why people are scared of wrecked/salvage cars. I've never seen a car ride/handle bad because it was wrecked and the "frame" was "bent."</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree clean title cars can be damged more then salvage ones , i tell everyone that , a clean can have a frame / engine repair as long as its not over the cost of the car and of course the choice of the owener so a repaird car will never hit any records on CARFAX , and i think the carfax is a bit over rated because if you crash a car and know you can fix it would you go to insureance or repair it your self outside? i know i would outside with a bud from a body shop for alot of reasons

 

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comesticly means that he just repaired it to appearnce rather then replacing the entire air big so ex the air bag on the sterring goes on he'll just make the streering wheel look normal cosmestically but no acutall air bag..... alto i do have to disagree with you a wrecked car is a good deal IF you pay for it the half the cost (assuming its a salvage/rebuild) AND its in perfect working conditions
and either the car was totaled big time or the original owener just fought the company saying that he / she didnt want the car and knowing its a new one he she had full coverage insuarance will give you a new one . so when ever you have a new car and its stolen or someting it benefits you , this is coming from someone that knows car insurances

hello isnt the OP listing i know this guy lol so what ever the car cost new same exact pakage noting less /more then pay what it should cost but half of it , remember insuarance will charge the same but values it 30% less there fore about 7gs ,and caveman as far as resell its ok cuz what helps a car is putting aftermarket parts that makes it great . SOME people dont have time to look for parts build install them / or dont know , so they just look for a fixed up car and buy it off the seller.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hi, ya im here, i just had a LONG week and slept in good this morning until 12.

So, at first I thought the airbags were replaced ... but yes reading the words it says 'cosmetically replaced' which probably implies they were just sealed up. One of the reasons I would want a NEW car instead of my 1996 civic H22 is that the airbags/safety are of very high standards. NOt having airbags makes it turn me off more, since i would most likely replace them myself at a high cost ... saying this ... the car values at KBB just under $20K. I would pay over $10, but hes asking $14 so I dont think we can make a deal at this time.

If anyone else is interested in his car, and has questions, I will gladly take it to local shops to get it inspected and give you the outcome of a mechanic inspection. Also, I see he just lowered the reserve price on the auction, my guess is that its around $13 now... thats funny that you know the seller GUS =] I wouldn't have guessed he did this for a living, he really just seemed like a private seller when I met him yesterday. Ill post any updates here

 

oh and one last thing, it claims to have 'DC Exhaust' I wonder if there is header too? but when the car drives there is a loud 'ricer' sound which was another turn off. still a nice car though, the SI's are definitely winners and I would be flattered to have one ...

 

well you could tell him your best offer and go from there, for what i know if you have a car in operating conditions you cannot drive it without the air bags funtiong therefore illegal but i could be wrong , as far as the air bags cost well when ever you crash they'll replace it lol but they dont cost that much tho also did you swing the names in ? gustavo/raul

 

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here is an exact copy paste of an eMail I just sent

"OH, one more thing. My friend Gustavo / Raul says he knows you or has met you. He said you have very good communication, so that’s a plus =] OK, well talk to you later and thanks again for meeting me yesterday …

-Christian
"

i wonder what if any his reply will be ^.-

 

I personally wouldnt mess with buying a salvage car like that because you never know what the previous damage was like. Was the car minorly damaged or was it slamed and cliped and new engine yada yada. I purchased a salvage title Si for 7500 few weeks ago and and im in the process of getting it fixed its almost done. I only purchased it because it was minorly wrecked and i can see and fix it to my own specs so I know its done right. Id never trust someone else's work though so id stay away, unless he has tons of before and after pictures, receipts etc. Even then Id probably still not trust it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gdrum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally wouldnt mess with buying a salvage car like that because you never know what the previous damage was like. Was the car minorly damaged or was it slamed and cliped and new engine yada yada. I purchased a salvage title Si for 7500 few weeks ago and and im in the process of getting it fixed its almost done. I only purchased it because it was minorly wrecked and i can see and fix it to my own specs so I know its done right. Id never trust someone else's work though so id stay away, unless he has tons of before and after pictures, receipts etc. Even then Id probably still not trust it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

your only having a hard time cuz you had to install/buid the car which sucks 4 u but that doesnt mean salvage cars arent good deal , btw wasnt it 15k ? and the guy doesnt sell cars are engine damged/require engine work , its not his style its not his work.

 

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your only having a hard time cuz you had to install/buid the car which sucks 4 u but that doesnt mean salvage cars arent good deal , btw wasnt it 15k ? and the guy doesnt sell cars are engine damged/require engine work , its not his style its not his work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but, there defenitely wasn't any 'before' pictures, and the only damage is rear taillight and 2 airbags deployed? hardly, thats under 2K fix right there, no need to cause a salvage title... so something is being disclosed here, im not sure what though.

ill probably hold out a little bit, i have already had experience buying cars then just to throw money on them and time ... not the most fun experience ...