Hey everyone, im new to the site and just picked up a 98 Type R, bone stock in MINT condition. I plan on keeping it stock, aside from some springs and a intake possibly. Which springs do you guys suggest i get, basically i want a descent drop (not tucking but just to cover up the fender gaps nicely) and at the same time i wanna retain the ride comfort (almost stock feel over bumps/pot holes)...i heard ibachs were good?

thanks 4 ur input

 

i think you'd probably be happier in the long run with stock springs and a descent set of koni's.
anyone agree? disagree?

 

Congratz on your pick up and now post some pictures!

 

we won't believe you until you post pics

 

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will do guys...im gonna take some pics soon, just picked her up yesterday and it snowed like a **** up here in toronto...first nice day and il take some pics

 

DC2_ITR Let me politely tell you to stop posting all these question.
These all have been asked before, a long time ago- like 10 years ago.
So we devised a system here that anyone can use. It's called the FAQ guide.

Take a look at the top of the page and click on it. It will keep you busy for at least a week.
good luck with your new R

 

im sorry what questions are you talking about....?

all i wanted to do was introduce my self, state what my plans are and if anyone has advice on springs they can advise me...

i dont know where you're getting "all these questions from" lol

 

He must have had a bad night.
Post some pics.

 

keep the stock springs.... you'll regret it. I want the look of it being lowered too, but nothing rides like stock.

 

Congrats.. Where's the pics?? A real Type R owner would take pics before driving it from where you bought it lol

 

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lol i didnt . One of the best day i had

 

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I feel you on that one

 

I'll offer my two cents, but I'm sure somebody will insist on arguing about it.

Progressive rate lowering springs suck. Doesn't matter who makes them, they are fundamentally bad. The ones I have the most experience with are Tanabe Super H and Eibach Sportlines. They have similar spring rates and feel pretty much the same.

The problems are 1. the springs aren't nearly stiff enough to compensate for the loss of suspension travel, so you end up bottoming out a lot and grinding your bumpstops into a fine powder. 2. progressive rates tend to give you more initial body roll and duller steering feel because the rate is soft for the first bit of suspension travel. These spring kits also tend to be hard on bushings from what I've seen.

Lowering the car for looks really isn't worth it. It generally beats the hell out of the car. The front end scrapes, oil pans and headers get dented, more stress is introduced to the chassis. It sucks.

You can, however, get aftermarket suspension that increases handling limits and doesn't make the car unpleasant to drive at all. But to keep the car in good shape, it's a good idea to try to stay close to the OEM ride height.

 

Was it the CW R that was in the auto trader and on ITRCA in Markhham, Ontario? Because if it was you're a lucky man, I wanted that caR

 

Congrats on finding a stock R in good shape. I enjoyed mine stock through 3 yrs of autocross etc, and came to understand what truly brilliant handling balance is all about... But... I became a little annoyed with the relatively 'soft' body roll and bit of vaguery during quick transitions. So I bought some Koni Sport shocks and machined new snap ring grooves in order to lower the stock springs just 10 mm on the shocks (which lowers the body about 17 mm). This reduces fender gap the perfect amount IMO (visually appealing) and doesn't compromise ground clearance enough to be a problem. Also retains stock springs for stock ride quality, which was a key objective. Only problem with this is that the truly brilliant handling balance I was referring to a while back, is now not so brilliant... in fact, the car now understeers some. If you aren't planning to AX or track the thing, then that's probably not going to be an issue, but be aware of these 'adverse' effects on the truly brilliant handling balance before committing to the suspension modification thing...

 

pics now or die!!!!!! lol jk

 

I'd like to see pics too. The CW ITR is my favorite!

 

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Progressive rate lowering springs suck. Doesn't matter who makes them, they are fundamentally bad. The ones I have the most experience with are Tanabe Super H and Eibach Sportlines. They have similar spring rates and feel pretty much the same.

The problems are 1. the springs aren't nearly stiff enough to compensate for the loss of suspension travel, so you end up bottoming out a lot and grinding your bumpstops into a fine powder. 2. progressive rates tend to give you more initial body roll and duller steering feel because the rate is soft for the first bit of suspension travel. These spring kits also tend to be hard on bushings from what I've seen.

Lowering the car for looks really isn't worth it. It generally beats the hell out of the car. The front end scrapes, oil pans and headers get dented, more stress is introduced to the chassis. It sucks.
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Generally I'd agree with you, but than I installed the Eibach Pro Kit. Problem solved. None of the above problems, smaller wheel well gap The only springs I'd reccomend if your goals are to keep things stockish.

 

No pics yet??

 

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thanks for your opinion dude...im aware that the type r is probably the best front wheel drive handling car in the world, and i might keep it bone stock for years to come. i will take it to the track, but once in a blue moon...so im not too concerned about making the car better just for the sake of the track...its gonna be more of a daily commuter...

 

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lol i promise by tomorrow