Is it allowed to loop the harness around the harness bar? Its the way ive had it for a while, just wanting to know before i go to some nhra event and they say no. These were the quickest pics i could find(not my car). I also have a bar in the cage at the bottom behind the set that the lap straps wrap around.




Modified by SPOOLINmatt at 12:17 PM 2/11/2007

 

i think your ok mine are bolted to the cage but i think your good

 

im pretty sure harness straps are legal... ive seen cars running in the 8's with them

 

The have to have to be secured by a stop of some sort so that they can not slide back and forth. other then that they are legal.

 

those bars in the pics are death traps not to mention not legal... I hope your cage is nothing like whats in the pics...

 

anyone know what kind of car that is? focus?

 

Not legal. You'd be better off using the stock seat belt.

 

i have a bolt and a tab welded to mine, and the v harness.

but with setups like yours at e-town, tech guys were haggling people about not having a means of keeping the straps from moving side to side.

nhra's solution was intercooler couplings and hose clamps.

this is how mine is setup:

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1886676

 

No this is my cage pictured. I was using those pics as an example like i said. So basically I just need to add some little stoppers or bend some steel rod and weld it on to contain the loops from sliding.

 

The harness isn't supposed to wrap around the cage. The rules say that you have to have some type of tabs welded to the cage for the harness to attach to. I run my harness wrapped around, but I have been warned that it isn't legal.

 

i read the rules i could not find any such thing about a tab welded to the cage.

 

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im looking over them as well, they are vague about how they want the harness to attach to the cage.

10:5 DRIVER-RESTRAINT SYSTEMS
A quick-release, 3-inch shoulder harness meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is
mandatory in all cars in competition required by the rules to have a
roll bar or a roll cage. (Permitted in all other classes.) Driverrestraint
system must be clearly labeled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1
and be dated by manufacturer. SFI Spec 16.1 Y-type belts dated
through 12/04 will be accepted through their two-year service
period only. System must be updated at two-year intervals from
date of manufacture. All seat-belt and shoulder-harness hardware
must be originally designed to be used with each other and
produced by the same manufacturer. For harness installation, see
illustration. Cars using OEM or OEM-type seat may have crotch
strap routed in front of seat instead of through seat. Only units that
release all five attachment points in one motion are permitted.
When arm restraints are worn with a restraint system that utilizes a
“latch lever,” a protective cover must be installed to prevent arm
restraint from accidentally releasing the latch lever. Protective cover
not required if system utilizes “duck-bill” latch hardware. All harness
sections must be mounted to the frame, crossmember, or reinforced
mounting and installed to limit driver’s body travel both upward and
forward. Seat belts may not be wrapped around lower framerails.
Under no circumstances are bolts inserted through belt webbing
permitted for mounting. Check manufacturer’s instructions.

10:11 SEAT BELTS
All cars not required by Class Requirements to use SFI Spec 16.1
driver-restraint systems must be equipped with an accepted quickrelease-
type driver seat belt. (All cars in competition requiring a roll
bar or a roll cage, or as outlined by Class Requirements, require a
five-point, 3-inch-wide SFI Spec 16.1 restraint system. See 10:5
DRIVER-RESTRAINT SYSTEMS.) Belts must be securely
fastened to the frame, crossmember, or reinforced mounting so
that all fittings are in a direct line with the direction of pull. Seat
belts may not be wrapped around lower framerails or any framerail
or crossmember. Steel castings of the type recommended by FAA
or U-bolt-type mounts are permitted. If used for installation, flat
steel plates must be a minimum of 1/4-inch thickness and have
rounded edges to prevent cutting seat belts. Under no
circumstances can belts be installed with bolts through webbing. In
all cars with fiberglass floors, a crossmember (minimum 2-inch x 2-
inch x .083-inch-wall-thickness square tubing) must be installed
between framerails for proper driver’s seat-belt installation.


"Belts must be securely
fastened to the frame, crossmember, or reinforced mounting so
that all fittings are in a direct line with the direction of pull. Seat
belts may not be wrapped around lower framerails or any framerail
or crossmember." &lt;--- is the only thing that reallly sticks out.

 

Deputy Dave strikes again

 

yeah it sticks out but they are specifically talking about the frame or cross member, not a cross bar that is supposed to be right behind you that your harness attaches to.

 

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sounds like a lot of the cage rules