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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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Default Major oil leak behind oil filter pedestal

As the title says. I changed the oil, thinking it was a leak from the oil filter.

It seems as if some sort of seal there has gone out. Does anybody have pictures/parts diagrams showing what would be required to fix it?

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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Phil you nub....lol

That o-ring goes out all the time on h22s......

You just need an extra large socket set or a pair of channel locks, I forget the exact size of the bolt though....

click the link. its #33


http://www.slhondaparts.com/br...10120
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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D'oh.

Thanks a bunch

EDIT: Do you know what size socket I'll need to remove the pedestal? Or would it be easier with just a big wrench?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Honestly, I can't remember.

It was in daddy's big red snap-on box, thats all I know, lol

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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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Should be a 30mm.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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take your time when you pit the ring in.....and lub the ring up so it can stay in place....btw its a 30mm.......hope this helps.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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This is slightly confusing.

From the oil filter in, is the order of parts:
Oil filter, threaded thing (#22), Other threaded thing (#19), Pedestal (#18), O-ring (#33) - Block?

So I have to separate the two threaded things to remove the pedestal, or can I just stick a 30mm on it and pop it off?

Also, are the threaded things what hold the pedestal on? As in, remove the things and then the pedestal will come off?
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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#22 is not part of the assembly. You only need to remove #19 to get the oil cooler freed from the engine (the coolant lines will keep you from removing it completely, though).

To install the new o-ring, use some Hondabond to hold it in place. If the o-ring is really floppy, just freeze it for a few hours.

Be very careful not to pinch the o-ring when you install it. You'll know if you pinched the o-ring because the engine will barf oil when you start it. You can't fix it once you've pinched it, you have to install a new o-ring.
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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i find a better way to hold the seal than hondabond would be a slight dabb of grease will do the trick
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Is this also common for H23's?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by InvaderTrax &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this also common for H23's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

All the time.
30mm socket & a new oil cooler o-ring and you're set.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Nice. I changed my oil today and noticed some seepage old oil around that area, so I'll have to change it soon.

So just a 30mm socket and it the threaded peice will come out?

Also, does the o-ring have some sort of groove that it fits into? If there isnt one, is it best to put it on the block then put the cooler over it, or on/in the cooler and put that to the block?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rocket30004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice. I changed my oil today and noticed some seepage old oil around that area, so I'll have to change it soon.

So just a 30mm socket and it the threaded peice will come out?

Also, does the o-ring have some sort of groove that it fits into? If there isnt one, is it best to put it on the block then put the cooler over it, or on/in the cooler and put that to the block?</TD></TR></TABLE>

92-96 Preludes all have grooves for the o-ring.
97-01 Preludes do not have grooves.

On my 4th gen, I put a few dabs of RTV to help secure the o-ring into the groove, as it has the dedency to fall out.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Went to replace it (failed the first time, pinched the o-ring), and it's ******* impossible to reach anything in there. I tried to get the coolant lines off to remove the pedestal completely, but that didn't work out (no clearance).

The o-ring is in the freezer now. Hoping to make it less pliable and thus easier to put on later tonight.

Anybody have any more tips about getting it in? It's kicking my ***.

And why in the hell are there TWO grooves on the damn thing? The outer groove is pointless.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Yeah... I was thinking about that when I was changing my oil. It seems like it would be hard to get in there and have room to replace an o-ring... esp laying on your back!

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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It's the inner groove. And I know what you're going through. I first thought that I got the wrong size o-ring, but that's not the case. Clean the area really well. I used simple green. Use some hondabond and work the o-ring slowly into the groove.

Do you have the old o-ring? Try putting it back on -- it should easily "snap" in. Then, get a flash light and just take a look. Sometimes you just need to see it in there.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Any ideas on the (per said earlier) groove-less h22a4?
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Mine is a 5th gen, same comment's apply. The inner "groove" is not much of a groove, but there's clearly an indentation for the o-ring. Atleast that's what I remembered.

Clean the area, freeze the o-ring, dab a little HondaBond on one side of the ring and work it around the groove.

I remember distinctly seeing where the old o-ring was on the engine block as well. It seemed a bit shinier. You might want to try and stick the o-ring on there instead. This is just suggestion and I've never heard anyone do this successfully.
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Default Re: Major oil leak behind oil filter pedestal (The Phil)

O ring for sure had the same problem check this link out

30mm bolt and when you put the bolt back on torq it to 54 lbs

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1843607
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Major oil leak behind oil filter pedestal (The Phil)

hey whats up all, im a total noob to this oil seal thing..i have a 93 2.3 SI and i keep noticing dabs of oil spillings and sometimes i see a little more than dabs..stupid oil leaks well im going to change the filter today and see if maybe thats the problem..

uhmm i could not understand the diagram of the picture posted. why you may ask?... imma damn noob and i would like some help =D thankz

i read that those O rings go out and everyone seems to have that prob.. where is it located?.. by the filter?..

thankz in advance for ur help
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Phil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D'oh.

Thanks a bunch

EDIT: Do you know what size socket I'll need to remove the pedestal? Or would it be easier with just a big wrench?</TD></TR></TABLE>

big wrench is too heavy to manage... just look for one that could fit in to the socket...
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:50 AM
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just be sure that you're on the right track... careful with that

My friend who pretends he knows everything tried to install the replacement he got for his vw oil fiter... whalah! He messed it up
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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hey i have a question. My 97 honda prelude has a major leak and i cant tell where it is coming from. it looks like its coming from the oil filter? how do i know if its the oil filter or an o-ring?
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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oil cooler seal mine did the same thing i went through hell figuring it out
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