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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Default tein basic vs. ksports vs. skunk2

still trying to decide which ones i should get. i dont want a set that will blow in a year. then again, i dont want to pay out the rectum for coilovers since it will just be for daily driving. im also looking for stock height.

help me out guys.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CXtypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">still trying to decide which ones i should get. i dont want a set that will blow in a year. then again, i dont want to pay out the rectum for coilovers since it will just be for daily driving. im also looking for stock height.

help me out guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know we've talked about this extensively for the past couple days, but I haven't heard exactly what your goals are. Obviously not autocross/road racing at stock height.

So what is it that you're looking for that you need $650 suspension packages for?

I'm still saying stock GSR springs and KYB AGX's will do you fine...
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Koni Yellow with H&R Sport with the shock collar moved up a notch.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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why coilovers?

coilovers suck, get some springs w/ stock struts.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why coilovers?

coilovers suck, get some springs w/ stock struts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

mother of christ where do these people come from?
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narfdanarf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

mother of christ where do these people come from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

From the real world.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narfdanarf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mother of christ where do these people come from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

"Don't want to waste money on an inferior product land."

I'm the mayor. BEEEYAH!
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why coilovers?

coilovers suck, get some springs w/ stock struts. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do they suck? They usually have better/stiffer spring rates than most springs.

But yeah, tell us what you want to do with your car. No need to spend 700+ on it if you're not doing anything...
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How do they suck? They usually have better/stiffer spring rates than most springs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, they have stiffer rates, but they often (not always) give the feeling of better handling by overcompensating with overly-stiff rates and a shock that's not valved to accommodate that.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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We're talking about full coilovers here though aren't we?
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We're talking about full coilovers here though aren't we?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do they suck? They usually have better/stiffer spring rates than most springs.

But yeah, tell us what you want to do with your car. No need to spend 700+ on it if you're not doing anything...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Coilovers are better than stock, but a well-thought-out spring and strut combo is better than any of the low-level coilover systems on the market. Koni Yellows and proper springrates will give better handling than anything the OP listed.

I've done the coilover thing many times for people, and I still return to struts and springs. It's just more flexible and more cost effective.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Default Re: tein basic vs. ksports vs. skunk2 (Archidictus)

interesting, so you say that springs and struts would be better then getting tein basic for my ek? If so what springs?
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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yeah, the guy up there said stock struts...and springs.


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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Default Re: tein basic vs. ksports vs. skunk2 (narfdanarf)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narfdanarf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, the guy up there said stock struts...and springs.


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I wouldn't pick stock struts, but GS-R springs for a DD @ stock ride height would be a pretty smooth ride.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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GSR springs and KYB AGX's give a pretty tight ride for stock height.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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ahh we were talking about full coilovers...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by narfdanarf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

mother of christ where do these people come from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf is that susposed to mean.

I was under the impression that we were talking about coilovers, not Fulls.
in which case coilovers suck ***, dude is dd. spring rate means a lot, and you dont want it with a DD.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How do they suck? They usually have better/stiffer spring rates than most springs.

But yeah, tell us what you want to do with your car. No need to spend 700+ on it if you're not doing anything...</TD></TR></TABLE>

"No need to spend 700+ on it if you're not doing anything..."
exactly... better/stiffer spring rate is not something you try for when dd.

i dont like your attitude narfdanarf, you wanna flame, go somewhere else
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THC07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">better/stiffer spring rate is not something you try for when dd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh boy, time for me to hop into this one, fire extinguisher ready.

A daily driver doesn't mean closer to stock. You can modify the hell out of a car and still call it a daily driver, as long as you drive it daily. Personal preference should dictate what you want your ride to feel like. Personally, I don't mind sacrificing ride quality, and I drive 20 miles one way to work everyday on Skunk2/AGXs on a Civic. On a crappy road, sure I feel it. But I also feel it when I corner and when I'm cruising at 80 on the highway. For what is sacrificed in ride quality, it makes up for itself in stability in corners and higher speeds.
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