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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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I purchased this 91 CRX Si off of my brother for 500 with no interior/suspension/motor/tranny app. a year ago.

Full Si Interior
D16a6 with Si Tranny
Lifted on random wheels
Stock Exhaust








Current Plans:

- Si Rear Sway bar with LCAs - Done
- CRX Hf front sway bar
- Tokico Illumina or KYB struts with Nuespeed Lowering Springs
- 14x7 Panasports with new tires
- Front and Rear Bumper supports
- Possible race seat and steering wheel
- Full Catback exhaust and header.
- Clean/Paint Engine Bay

As soon as I find a replacement Si Tranny cable, I'm gonna begin the engine swap. I have a rebuilt Z6 head and am currently searching for a z6, y7 or y8 block to mate it to.

Motor/Tranny Plans:

Z6/Y7/Y8 Combo with Si cable Tranny.
Y8 Intake Manifold
Stock Intake

This is a picture of it with my panasports photoshopped on it. I will be repainting the panas black with polished lip and I will be getting new tires for it.


Build Goal:

- To have a nice running CRX that runs high 14s/ low 15's and will be DD.
- AutoX in the summer
- Paint job in the spring.

This is not going to be the fastest moving build thread because its cold and snowy outside but I'm gonna do my best. I was recently offered 2k as it sits, which it probably isnt worth, but I'm going with my gut and holding onto it to have a nick quick CRX. It's my fourth CRX and I'll be damned if I never get to have a clean, repainted one to show off.


Update 2-3-07
Si Rear Sway Installed and Freezing my *** off!!!




Apparently, 4door DA rear sway bars were supposed to fit onto CRX Si's but there like an 1 1/4" too short. So I had an Si sway ready to go! I do now have rear DA LCA's though but they fit fine.

Next thing is to install my hollow 16mm HF front sway for some stability but not too much so I can autox in the Spring. I might install these no namer stabilizer bars too.



Modified by HBK at 6:40 PM 2/3/2007
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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my old suspension looks awesome

good luck with build
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Thanks man. I realize now I didn't even need the stock suspension but whatev its like cruising in a caddy for the mean time.

For some reason with the lighter CRXs, the car sits extra high with the stock suspension.

It looks so ridiculous I'm ashamed to drive to the meet Sunday.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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all from 92 + are hydro transmissions.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biggee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all from 92 + are hydro transmissions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya know I never realized that. Thanks for the info!!! I mightve swapped in a hydro tranny, and then went to plug everything in and it wouldn't have worked!
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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hey i have a set of eibach springs if u need some, also not to burst your bubble but if u can sell the z6 head and get a y8 head, get a a6 ( si non vtec), z6, y7 or y8 bottom and and put the y8 head on, why do i say that, easier install with your si distributor unless u r going obd1, if thats the case ignore what i just said, also dont worry about wiring up the knock sensor unless again u r going obd1. if u r staying obd0 the si distributor will bolt right up to the y8 head, z6 head u will have to modify the legs on the distributor and i think only use like 1 maybe 2 bolts. up to you tho.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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looks nice, keep up the good work!
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_ef9_b16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i have a set of eibach springs if u need some, also not to burst your bubble but if u can sell the z6 head and get a y8 head, get a a6 ( si non vtec), z6, y7 or y8 bottom and and put the y8 head on, why do i say that, easier install with your si distributor unless u r going obd1, if thats the case ignore what i just said, also dont worry about wiring up the knock sensor unless again u r going obd1. if u r staying obd0 the si distributor will bolt right up to the y8 head, z6 head u will have to modify the legs on the distributor and i think only use like 1 maybe 2 bolts. up to you tho. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea thanks for the info.

I just talked to someone who has a fresh 2000 y7 block which I might try and get. My z6 head is actually still my brothers and I'm always on the lookout for a y8 head. I used to have a y7 block with a y8 head obdo and that thing ripped! My brother's dizzy is modified for z6 obdo so I'd probly trade with him.

In the end I'm looking to build the best mini-me possible for my obdo crx setup. I'm not going obd1 any time soon but it is something I'd consider.

So if anyone has a y8 head and/or y8 intake manifold i'm all ears and very interested.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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******' right. Thats a badass picture

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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to another build.

btw hbk, whos the bitch in the avatar?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmazm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> to another build.

btw hbk, whos the bitch in the avatar?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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I think its just some girl online though! Either way shes HOTT
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Looks like Jenna Haze. y0 Dave, good luck with the build; if you need anything let me know. And when you take out that trans make sure I'm over that way we can drop it off of a very tall building and incinerate it once it crashes

PS: gimme your wheels

PSS: what header is that?
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Jenna Haze is correct sir. such a ****


anyway

Your not getting the wheels

Its a chikara pos header.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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Rather then starting a new thread about my best motor option, ill ask in here.

I have a few different options for blocks right now.

D15b7 block with Z6 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 10.54:1 with 1.5 liter

D15b7 block with Y8 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 11:1 with 1.5 liter

D16y7 block with Z6 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 9.87:1 with 1.6 liters

D16y7 block with Y8 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 10.25:1 with 1.6 liters


Whats going to be the best daily driven setup. 11:1 compression sounds a tad high for daily use, I'm guessing I'd need to up the fuel pressure a tad and run 93 octane.

I've had a y7 block with y8 with 3 layer y8 gasket and that thing ripped at 9.96:1 compression.

Right now I can get a y7 block or a b7 block but the b7 has like 120k and the y7 is from an 00' and is minty fresh with low mileage. I've felt the difference between a 1.5 and 1.6 and I'm wondering if its worth it to have higher compression but a lower liter motor.

Any experiences?


I also have a complete D16a6 in my CRX right now, but all of the seals are bad and it burns oil. I'm trying to have a motor/tranny complete and ready to be dropped in before I even touch my a6. I'd love to rebuild it for this setup but I doubt thats happening, and having a newer block seems to be the smart move.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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personally I'd keep the a6, but if you want vtec. go for this setup.

D15b7 block with Z6 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 10.54:1 with 1.5 liter

That compression should provide decent gas mileage, ease of tuning, and you won't need to mess with the y8 timing bunk. I'd def suggest to stay away from the y8 head, no matter which route you go.

I'd also recommend a swap to obd1 to make tuning easier, but there are ways around everything
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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I'd keep the a6, but this is my only car and I need it for DD. If I had a beater then I would just pull the a6 and rebuild it.

So my only other option is to have another motor built and ready to go.


What do you have against the y8 head?

With the D15b7 block, do you think I'm sacrificing torque for higher compression? Whats better to have in the long run?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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It all depends on what you're building it for. But whatever you build I suggest a good tune, since hondas are cheap and "easy" to tune. I'm speaking in terms of computer/ecu tuning.

actually I was wrong in that previous post, about the timing bunk. I looked into it more, and it seems like you can get the y8 head to 16* base timing with the proper timing belt/tensioner/water pump.

run a search for "d16y8 + mini" and you can figure it out.

why can't you reuse the a6 bottom?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Well I can run the a6 block, but it burns oil and I dont have the time to rebuild it. Basically the engine swap will be a weekend thing and I have to have a motor built and ready to be dropped in.

I've had a y7 block with y8 head and all you need to do is run the y8 timing belt. With the a6 block it should be the same deal.

As far as running obdo or obd1, I'm not sure yet. Converting everything, buying a dizzy and ecu and conversion harness is extra money I don't have. I have like 3 a6 dizzys, plenty of engine harnesses and anything else for obdo.

So if anything I will be running a y7 or b7 block with a z6 head or y8 head if I can find one all non-vtec for now.

Once thats complete, I'm looking to get a y8 intake manifold (my favorite) and run an adj. fuel pressure regulator and guage.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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I would personally go for the 1.5 block so you can get the revs but since the y7 block is minty you might as well use that. The difference won't be that big, specially if you look into I/H/E. I'm trying to source some VX rods but I can't for the life of me find some

1.62 r/s ratio, 11.5 compression, 1.5 nonvtec FTW!!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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yea i know, the higher compression is so tempting, but if i can get this y7 block im going for it. Cant put a price on having a low mileage 1.6 block. Hopefully rukusmaster gets back to me about his y8 head for sale. I love the y7/y8 combo and I'd rather not use my z6 head cause its in pieces.

The real dilemma is a tranny. I might have to get it out of that hatch in the junkyard. Only problem is that the hatch didnt really have that much damage so I'm wondering why its in there inthe first place.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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This is a great little build up, honestly I am thinking about going back to sane and even stuffing a D in just making a fun little car like you will have.

Good luck and higher comp ftw
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks alot man.

If I can get the y8 head and y7 block this will be my compression. I never could figure out how to get the rivets out of the 3 layer y8 head gasket, but its a big difference in compression, so if anyone has any clue lemme know


D16y7 block with Y8 head and 2 layer y8 gasket = 10.25:1 with 1.6 liter (torque monster)

and if that y7 block dont work out, its 11:1 compression with the b7/y8 combo
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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just buy an ls swap for the car you will be much happier than the mini me conversion...

my full body crx si went 14.7 with a b16 so i doubt the mini me will be doing 14's
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