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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Default Logged my acceleration in Neptune the past few nights. Interesting results.

Like I mentioned a week or so ago I finally got the Type-R back on the road after being down for quite some time. Well I finally got my Neptune RTP engine management up and running and have been spending the past few days tuning the Type-R. Part throttle is pretty decent (still a little rich while crusing in some spots) and I've just about got full throttle dialed in.

Anyway since Neptune can track my VSS and logs the time to the tenth of a second I decided to see what the R could do in the good old 0-60mph and 0-100mph runs. Please note these runs were done at 1am in the morning on a deserted stretch of interstate spanning across 8 miles of open ocean (Gulf of Mexico).

My first run:

0-60mph in 5.5 seconds.
0-100mph in 15.4 . I'm still rusty I guess because I somehow missed the easiest gear in the world (4th).

AF's were looking good though until about 8,000rpms where the car decided to dive rich into the mid 11's. I pulled out a little fuel up top and decided to give her another run (without mishifting hopefully):

Second run:

0-60mph in 5.8 seconds.
0-100mph in 13.5 seconds.

I didn't get as good of a launch but the 0-100mph time was looking impressive. Car was still rich up top so I pulled out some more fuel and gave her another shot.

Third run:

0-60mph approximately 5.5
0-100mph approx 13.1.

I think I erased the info for this run but I know the 0-100mph dropped a few tenths from the last run due to a little bit better launch. AF's were looking good now (low-mid 13's across the board at full throttle) so I decided to get in one more launch before heading home for the night.

Final run. I tached her up to around 5,000rpms and quickly slipped the clutch. The cold Azenis stuck to the pavement like glue plain and simple. Logged data was as followed:

0-60mph in 5.3
0-100mph in 12.8

Needless to say if the Hype-R can produce numbers anywhere near to this at the track I'm going to be extremely happy.

Current specs:

Hacked up AEM CAI converted to a short ram because the bypass valve broke (they're garbage anyway).
JDM DC 4-1 header.
Kteller 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust, straight through resonator/test pipe and Oval ES style muffler.
Fidanza Flywheel.
Action Kevlar clutch.
Skunk2 stage 1 cams. Car hasn't been on a dyno since it's been put back together so I haven't touched the settings on these things from where they were 2 years ago.
Rocket Motorsports valve train.
"Who knows what he did" head work package by Alaniz technologies. I honestly don't know what he did to the head. Alaniz said it had tons of heat cracks so he rewelded and shaped the chambers. I told him I just wanted it to run like stock again. If he added any special touches while reshaping them is anyone's guess lol.

Car also has the PS deleted. AC is still intact. Runs were with full interior minus spare and jack. Car is rolling on 205/50R15 Falken Azenis.


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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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oooh pictures of your R please???
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImXposed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oooh pictures of your R please???</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you've ever seen a bone stock looking PY ITR you know what mine looks like (well mine has a few "character" adding marks in places).

I plan on having it professionally detailed in a few weeks so I'll post pics then.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Those sound like some very nice numbers for a street car.

I'm not even going to ask where you found that street with the 100mph speed limit!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Oooo... Nice numbers Active Aero, planning on hitting some lower times? Can't wait to see.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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great info!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Good stuff! It is always nice to have the instant gratification after you make changes.....
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oooo... Nice numbers Active Aero, planning on hitting some lower times? Can't wait to see. </TD></TR></TABLE>

In all honesty I'd be happy just to run what I did back in the day without cams and the other goodies I've acquired since....well at least my first time back at the track that is.

A 13.5 or under would sure be nice eventually though.

I'm also not stupid enough to completely rely on these data log numbers to predict what I'm going to run good but if they ARE accurate then, well, I should be more than pleased once I get to the track. I guess only time will tell.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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I think a 13.5 is do-able... You ran a 13.7 with 173whp. I definately think a valvetrain and mild cams would cut down .2, especially with your driving.

I estimate I probably have mid 170whp with my modifications, and the best I could muster my last session at the track, was 14.3 at 96.2MPH with a badly heated clutch. With a new clutch, I know she has a high 13 in her, but we'll see.

Anyway, are the tracks closed for the season in Mobile?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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The tracks are never closed in Alabama being as we pretty much never get snow and might only drop below freezing a few times during a winter season.

In regards to the 13.5 I agree. I trapped 100.89mph with 173whp and then later made 184whp with some extremely rough tuning with my cams ( I only had a VAFC and really had no clue what I was doing lol). I never got back to the track after that but I'm assuming making 11whp more would have bumped my trap a slight bit more on it's own. Now that I've actually got a real engine management I would expect to be able to do the same if not better.

My only fear was that I had some magical freak R and that once I threw in a new motor it would be all but a memory lol. If my brand new cam'd motor gets out run by my old stock one that was burning a quart of oil every few hundred miles I'm gonna laugh....as soon as I get done crying.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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^ Haha, to the last sentence.

I definately think you should be able to hit 13.5. Planning on hitting the track anytime soon?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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I definately think you should be able to hit 13.5. Planning on hitting the track anytime soon?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very soon. I might even sneak up there this weekend.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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^ Doooooo it.

I'm not hitting the track again until I get my new clutch in, probably sometime in the summer... It was heating up so badly after my launch, I couldn't catch anything the rest of the track... So I called it a day before I had to walk home, haha.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ Doooooo it.

I'm not hitting the track again until I get my new clutch in, probably sometime in the summer... It was heating up so badly after my launch, I couldn't catch anything the rest of the track... So I called it a day before I had to walk home, haha. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well you definitely did something right. A 14.3 with "only" a 96mph trap speed definitely means you're driving the car right.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Just out of curiousity, why did you have Alaniz fix your head, for what was probably way more than what a new/used ITR head would cost, if you just wanted stock specs?
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Well you definitely did something right. A 14.3 with "only" a 96mph trap speed definitely means you're driving the car right. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool.

Any advice on increasing my trap speed? I really know nothing about drag racing, I just do it once in a while for fun.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stinkycheezmonky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just out of curiousity, why did you have Alaniz fix your head, for what was probably way more than what a new/used ITR head would cost, if you just wanted stock specs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I nicked some valves back in the day and had a local machine shop "fix it" and put in some Portflow valve springs. When I got it back the car never ran right and hit some massively lean AF's on the dyno even though I touched NOTHING in regards to the cars air flow or tune. When I finally pulled everything out I decided to send it to a pro to check it over.

When Alaniz called me back he asked how much nitrous I was running and to quote him "what the hell did you do to this head?". After telling him the car has never seen nitrous he stated that my head had the worst heat cracks he has EVER seen for a pure NA car. On top of that it was only running ONE set of valve springs per valve thanks to the local machine shop. I have no clue how I didn't grenade the motor.

When finally finished he had completely reworked the chambers and installed steel spark plug sleeve inserts into some of the chambers for me in addition to custom pressure testing and fitting my head with the Rocket Motorsports valvetrain of his liking. I had originally sent him a set of RM valvesprings but after testing them he wanted to go with another combination of inners and outers of his pressure preference. Rocket and him are apparently close to each other so he sent Rocket back my original set and got Rocket to send him the combo of his choice.

After this was all said and done he had kept my head about 6 months longer than originally promised. I didn't really care that much since I was just glad he was taking the time to make everything was right but he insisted in cutting me a break since it took him so long

The total cost of all the work INCLUDING shipping from California back to Alabama was only $300.

Therefore Alaniz gets a in my book.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool.

Any advice on increasing my trap speed? I really know nothing about drag racing, I just do it once in a while for fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not much you can do about trap speed. The only thing I've noticed is that launching high in the power band tends to help. Pulling a 2.0 60' at 6,000rpms always seemed to allow me to post a higher trap speed than pulling the exact same 60' at a lower rpm.

A slipping clutch means you were accelerating as fast as possible which could easily account for a loss in trap speed.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I nicked some valves back in the day and had a local machine shop "fix it" and put in some Portflow valve springs. When I got it back the car never ran right and hit some massively lean AF's on the dyno even though I touched NOTHING in regards to the cars air flow or tune. When I finally pulled everything out I decided to send it to a pro to check it over.

When Alaniz called me back he asked how much nitrous I was running and to quote him "what the hell did you do to this head?". After telling him the car has never seen nitrous he stated that my head had the worst heat cracks he has EVER seen for a pure NA car. On top of that it was only running ONE set of valve springs per valve thanks to the local machine shop. I have no clue how I didn't grenade the motor.

When finally finished he had completely reworked the chambers and installed steel spark plug sleeve inserts into some of the chambers for me in addition to custom pressure testing and fitting my head with the Rocket Motorsports valvetrain of his liking. I had originally sent him a set of RM valvesprings but after testing them he wanted to go with another combination of inners and outers of his pressure preference. Rocket and him are apparently close to each other so he sent Rocket back my original set and got Rocket to send him the combo of his choice.

After this was all said and done he had kept my head about 6 months longer than originally promised. I didn't really care that much since I was just glad he was taking the time to make everything was right but he insisted in cutting me a break since it took him so long

The total cost of all the work INCLUDING shipping from California back to Alabama was only $300.

Therefore Alaniz gets a in my book.</TD></TR></TABLE>

$300? That's not bad at all.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not much you can do about trap speed. The only thing I've noticed is that launching high in the power band tends to help. Pulling a 2.0 60' at 6,000rpms always seemed to allow me to post a higher trap speed than pulling the exact same 60' at a lower rpm.

A slipping clutch means you were accelerating as fast as possible which could easily account for a loss in trap speed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was launching around 4,500RPM, and trying to slip it out of the hole to keep from lighting the tires up. Should I try, let's say, 6,000RPM and slip the clutch accordingly?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Nice times .
I wonder how much faster you can get your car on slicks.
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Therefore Alaniz gets a in my book.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alaniz used to work in Manila for a shop called Autoplus. Ask him about it. I have never used Neptune but your nos look good! Did you lighten up the car like take off the rear seat, spare tire etc? Now I wonder what my car can do...
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Looking forward to see what you can get the car down to! GL
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Neptune FTW!!!
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Where exactly are you racing in Mobile that has a quarter mile track? The only one I know of anywhere close to there that is a quarter mile is Emerald Coast, Hattiesburg, or Gulfport. I'm from Long Beach. My dad and I race in Mobile all the time, but it's only 600 ft, not even a full eighth mile. Just curious, cause I've been looking for a quarter mile besides Gulfport, it just plain sucks.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ActiveAero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I nicked some valves back in the day and had a local machine shop "fix it" and put in some Portflow valve springs. When I got it back the car never ran right and hit some massively lean AF's on the dyno even though I touched NOTHING in regards to the cars air flow or tune. When I finally pulled everything out I decided to send it to a pro to check it over.

When Alaniz called me back he asked how much nitrous I was running and to quote him "what the hell did you do to this head?". After telling him the car has never seen nitrous he stated that my head had the worst heat cracks he has EVER seen for a pure NA car. On top of that it was only running ONE set of valve springs per valve thanks to the local machine shop. I have no clue how I didn't grenade the motor.

When finally finished he had completely reworked the chambers and installed steel spark plug sleeve inserts into some of the chambers for me in addition to custom pressure testing and fitting my head with the Rocket Motorsports valvetrain of his liking. I had originally sent him a set of RM valvesprings but after testing them he wanted to go with another combination of inners and outers of his pressure preference. Rocket and him are apparently close to each other so he sent Rocket back my original set and got Rocket to send him the combo of his choice.

After this was all said and done he had kept my head about 6 months longer than originally promised. I didn't really care that much since I was just glad he was taking the time to make everything was right but he insisted in cutting me a break since it took him so long

The total cost of all the work INCLUDING shipping from California back to Alabama was only $300.

Therefore Alaniz gets a in my book.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for future reference where in california is his shop located?
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