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Who has the itr 5 lug w/ brakes conversion

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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After the conversion did your guys brakes feel different??
my brakes arent as sensitive like they were i have to press down alot more than before. I did properly bleed the system twice using the diagonal method I just need some input from others who have done the conversion. maybe its air in the lines or maybe its because i need to swap out my MC. Please share some of your experiences. thanks a bunch

btw:swap went into a 2000 civic si


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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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porportional valve needs to be changed
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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hmm. im not familiar with the "porportional valve" someone please share some details pictures if availabe. When does this valve typically need replacing? is it one of those maintanence parts that needs replacing after X amount of miles? how much is the valve and how difficult is it to change it.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Si already has the correct Proprtioning valve. You probably still have air in the lines.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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i guess i forgot to mention that the swap went into 2000 si. I guess ill try to rebleed again. how many reps should i be doing per brake line? thanks.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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did you bleed with the engine on?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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engine was off. was the engine suppose to be on?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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you probably just have air in the lines
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Pedal feel and effort will change once you swap out the M/C and brake booster.
Did the full conversion (brakes, m/c, and booster) on my Si and am happy with the results.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madm@nkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pedal feel and effort will change once you swap out the M/C and brake booster.
Did the full conversion (brakes, m/c, and booster) on my Si and am happy with the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>

did you swap the whole conversion at once? I hear that braking will improve once ive swapped MC's for the 1" but I still want to know if the extra play is normal because i didnt swap MC's.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evochuck &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you bleed with the engine on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

who bleed's their brakes with the engine running?? ive never heard of doing it that way.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Another thing i noticed when i got home. after i turned the car off i started pumping the brakes and I remember before the pedal would get firmer the more i pumped it plus it makes these croaking pumping sounds. dont know if that helps or is an indicator of what may be wrong.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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i did mine and kept the stock ex m/c and booster. i felt a big difference
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmrprojects &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did mine and kept the stock ex m/c and booster. i felt a big difference</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of difference did you feel? Did you notice anything like what im experiencing with the croaking noises when i rapidly pump the breaks and how the pedal doesnt firm up after pumping the brakes lots of times with the car off.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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damn doode shut up im about to go ur house and help you!! hahaha see u in a bit
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Who has the itr 5 lug w/ brakes conversion (kpop)

Did it all at once.
Didn't want to deal with bleeding the lines any more than I had to.
From what I understand, you can use the 1" m/c with the stock Si booster, but I am not sure about pedal feel or travel.
Good luck.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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problem solved wit a great result thanks for listing guys but now u owe me dinner for helpin HAHA
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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EDIT:
^^^^^^^ I just saw that post...awesome! 8)

I did a conversion on my 00' hatch; I used a 1" ITR Master Brake Cylinder and left the prop valve. I also have Cobalt Friction pads (the sport ones), all i need to do is tap the brake pedal for stopping power.

From your description, it really just sounds like you need a bleeding job. 8)

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