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what swap is best h22 or gsr?

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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what swap is best for my eg? most reliable?
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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What do you want to do with it?

h22 is a cool swap, not many people do it, and it's a tourque monster compared to others. I wanted to do that swap for a long time. Still do.

I hear it's harder of the two in any vehicle


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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you want to do with it?

H22 will handle like crap because of how it sits above the axel.

Gsr will leave room for turbo.

h22 is a cool swap, not many people do it, and it's a tourque monster ocmpared to others. I wanted to do that swap for a long time. Still do.

I hear it's harder of the two in any vehicle</TD></TR></TABLE>

h2b is also something you should look into...the torque of an h series with engine placement of a b series.

also there is always room for turbo with an h series
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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h2b
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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these compaRison threads are really boring and old . there is so many topics on this its not even sunny. btw if its a daily driver=gsr, not a dialy driver=h22
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raphael &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> btw if its a daily driver=gsr, not a dialy driver=h22</TD></TR></TABLE>

why do people always say this?

h22's can be daily driven.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbociviccoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why do people always say this?

h22's can be daily driven.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True, and I forgot about the H2b.

So having the H2b, does that change where the engine sits in the engine bay? Because if it can sit directly over the axles I'd have to pick me up an H22.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

True, and I forgot about the H2b.

So having the H2b, does that change where the engine sits in the engine bay? Because if it can sit directly over the axles I'd have to pick me up an H22.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes...it makes the motor sit like a b series. having the h2b set up is a plus for all the h22 guys...the axles are really straight.

making over 400 whp still on stock axles
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Looks like I'm getting a h22 in the future, N/a baby!

Then all I have to do is relocate the battery and add a CF hood to make up for the 30 lbs
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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what is H2B? Sorry, still learning
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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H2B is when a custom adapter plate is made for the B seriers tranny so the h22 matches up to it.

Thus allowing the h22 engine to sit where a bseries engine would.

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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Thank you very much for clarifying that. I figured it had to be some sort of adapter.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H2B is when a custom adapter plate is made for the B seriers tranny so the h22 matches up to it.

Thus allowing the h22 engine to sit where a bseries engine would.

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allows the better gearing of the b series tranny. better product support and better shifting at high rpms. also b series trannies take more abuse
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbociviccoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

allows the better gearing of the b series tranny. better product support and better shifting at high rpms. also b series trannies take more abuse </TD></TR></TABLE>

D: all of the above.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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thanks for the advise! i heard that when you get the h22 you have to change the timing belt or something to do wiith timing belt or else it would expletive up the head. is that right? and upgrade my axles
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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you have the h2b? how much you spend on the whole swap? wolud appreciate the response!
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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turbociviccoupe has it. He raves about it

We chatted for a bit, and when I have money for a swap I'm going H2B
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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before you put the h22 in there, swap out it's auto belt tensioner for a manual one off a h23...
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03akkord5spd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before you put the h22 in there, swap out it's auto belt tensioner for a manual one off a h23...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Care to go into detail?
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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If you go h2b you'll need to add spacers for the hood. There's hood clearance problems
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whal3_p3nis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you go h2b you'll need to add spacers for the hood. There's hood clearance problems</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've never heard of that.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WTF random? Post *****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no im not a post *****, if you check i usually try to contribute and help people but this thread could have been avoided by a good search, if the op is so stupid and lazy he cannot do that, then i vote he kills himself. it is not 1995 honda swaps are nothing new. the info is there, there is no reason to keep asking the same questions. ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE IS A STICKY AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE EXPLAINING ALL THE SWAPS!!
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you want to do with it?

H22 will handle like crap because of how it sits above the axel. Wrong

Gsr will leave room for turbo. H22 has enough room for it

h22 is a cool swap, not many people do it, and it's a tourque monster ocmpared to others. I wanted to do that swap for a long time. Still do.

I hear it's harder of the two in any vehicle</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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yeah i need to go back and edit that post. I have since been educated.

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this thread sucks
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