Ok, so I'm looking at getting Ground Control coilovers on my ride, (91 Accord) but now I want to know how low can I adjust them before having to put a camber kit on? I have asked a couple of shops and get very different answers. Well, if anybody can drop a line on this topic, it sure would help.

Thanks,

Lee

 

General rule of thumb is anything lower than 1.5 in messes up your camber. I have the Eibach Pro Kit and I have not needed a kit. I got a simple alignment and that was it. But I am only down 1.5 front and rear. You will need a camber kit w/ coils.

Also, next time please do a search

 

I'm only looking to go maybe 2" in the front and 1.75 in the back... What do you think.... I'm for sure going to get alignment right a way...

 

As I had posted in your other thread:

 

Well, the primary concern with camber seems to be excessive wear on the inside of tires.
Rule of thumb around here seems to be if your camber is under -2.0 degrees and you set your toe to zero, your tires will be fine. Honda recommends a bit of toe-in for strait-line stability, but with greater-than-factory negative camber, this will eat your tires. The drawback to zero toe is the car may tend to follow road irregularities, but with the negative camber it will take the turns real well.

 

THANKS everyone for you input into this subject... You are very helpful… 2 er

 

I dont think Accords even need camber kits. The front camber can be corrected by doing an alignment, resetting it to factory camber. However an alignment can not fix rear negative camber, which simply stacking washers behind the control arm (or is it something else?? I forget) will fix it.

Total cost: Alignment + washers ~= $70

Better than paying $300+ for a kit

 

Sorry, camber cannot be adjusted on Accords (and probably all Hondas) without a camber adjustment kit. Only front and rear toe and front caster can be adjusted on an otherwise stock suspension.

Edit: oh and rear camber too with the washer trick you mentioned, but front camber is fixed as there is no way to reposition the front upper control arm without a kit.


[Modified by 4doorH22, 11:57 AM 5/17/2002]

 

on most hondas, you cannot adjust the camber when you get a 4 wheel alignment. the 4 wheel alignment only fixes your caster and toe. TOE is probably the most important thing to fix, if your toe is off your tires wont last. i have the neuspeed sport springs(and koni yellow shocks if that makes a diff) and it has a 1.75F/1.5R drop. my camber is around -1.5 on all 4 sides. as long as its under -2 you should be fine. my tires are wearing even and i had this setup for almost a year now.

 

1.5 and 1.75 inch lowering will affect your camber wear, contrary to what many say. i have seen it over and over again. the inside of the tires wears much more quickly if lower than 1.5, but still wears nonetheless. i have seen this happen on many of my friends cars that include civic hatch's, accords, civic coupes, and even nissan SE-R's. the TOE is very important also because they will mess up your tires faster, but the camber is still important. you can get 4 wheel alignment at a local decent shop for around 30-40 bucs. dont go to tire kingdom and places like that, they'll try to rip you off. go to the local mechanics that have been around a while.

 

Ok, so fixing TOE is one of the most import things it sounds like. And fixing TOE can be done be getting a 4 wheel alignment. No camber kit need for that! But, I just got my 18”s on this past weekend and the 35’s tires are freaking so low profile that I’m worried about pinching the tire now. I’m afraid that with a –1.5 off set on the camber that the in side of the tires might pinch easier. So just to let you all know, I do plan on getting a camber kit also when I lower my ride. Should I put the camber kit on before I get my alignment? Oh, and I just want to tell everyone that I can’t believe the difference 18”s make on handling. I live in the heart of the Rocky Mountains and when driving back for the tire store, 150 miles away, I was going 65 – 80 mph around turns and up and down the mountain passes. And I felt I could of gone a little faster. Thanks for all your help. Peace… 2 er