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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Default Any B17A build ups and ET out there???

Just wanted to see if anyone on here is willing to show off their b17A build ups or dyno sheets and ETs 1/4??
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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subscribed, I am very interested to see aswell
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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still looking,anyone???
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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B16 count? LOL. J/K.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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I did one back about 4 years ago. 92 Blcok, Skunk2 stage 1 cams, JDM 4-1 ITR header, gears, exhaust, AEM CAI, and some tuning on crome. Got me to 170whp or so if I recall right. I am sure I can dig up the dyno sheet sometime if I looked hard enough. Ran 14.3 in an EG hatch with this. I forget the trap speed but I want to say 98mph.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did one back about 4 years ago. 92 Blcok, Skunk2 stage 1 cams, JDM 4-1 ITR header, gears, exhaust, AEM CAI, and some tuning on crome. Got me to 170whp or so if I recall right. I am sure I can dig up the dyno sheet sometime if I looked hard enough. Ran 14.3 in an EG hatch with this. I forget the trap speed but I want to say 98mph.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that was on stock valve train,no porting?? no pistons??
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did one back about 4 years ago. 92 Blcok, Skunk2 stage 1 cams, JDM 4-1 ITR header, gears, exhaust, AEM CAI, and some tuning on crome. Got me to 170whp or so if I recall right. I am sure I can dig up the dyno sheet sometime if I looked hard enough. Ran 14.3 in an EG hatch with this. I forget the trap speed but I want to say 98mph.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you mind enlighting us a little more ? I happen to have a stock b17 and a set of sks1 laying around, 170whp sound's worth my while.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LABjunkies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that was on stock valve train,no porting?? no pistons??</TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR valvetrain. PR3's for pistons. Why is everyone acting like 170whp is a big deal? Thats cake to hit with a B16/B17.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ITR valvetrain. PR3's for pistons. Why is everyone acting like 170whp is a big deal? Thats cake to hit with a B16/B17.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who said it's a big deal ? it looked rather impressive when under the impression it was an oe bottom end.

quick question. Where did the sks1 peak at in the b17a ? And how high did you rev ?


Id love to see the dyno chart if your willing to dig it up.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Who said it's a big deal ? it looked rather impressive when under the impression it was an oe bottom end.

quick question. Where did the sks1 peak at in the b17a ? And how high did you rev ?


Id love to see the dyno chart if your willing to dig it up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is the chart. 5whp less then I said, oops. Doing this with B17 pistons might be a touch on the rough side due to the low compression. You would be VERY limited in the cams that you could run and that would be the problem. Keep in mind stage 1 skunks are pretty mild. I am sure with a larger cam this would have done quite more. I switched to a B18C later on and got that to around 190whp using some fairly large cams. The stage 1 skunk however is a very good cam. I might be getting those for the B16 I am building for my EK.

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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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so this dyno is with P61 pistons??
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LABjunkies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so this dyno is with P61 pistons??</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ITR valvetrain. PR3's for pistons. Why is everyone acting like 170whp is a big deal? Thats cake to hit with a B16/B17.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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LOL thanks
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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sorry to bring this back up but i can not find any more dyno or info on the b17a?How does the b17a compared to a b16a does it make more power than a b16a with the extra displacement? I've searched and there are not a lot of people who have built this motor. I know it's a pretty rare motor because it has not been in production for a very long time. I'm planning on building a b17a block very soon and i want to reach 180 whp with 120 tq if it is possible. here are my plans. Compression should be around 11.5 The car is a DD.

B17a block
p30 pistons
2 layer HG
Toda header or rage
2.5 exhaust

B18c1 head with blox intake manifold and 68mm Tb ( might get the head ported)
Skunk stage 1 or ctr cam or BC 3 ( i don't want to go stage 2 cams)
Skunk cam gears.
crome tune
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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I have a b17 shortblock sitting in my garage that ive been thinking about using, but with the rest of my set up i dont think its going to work out very well

head:
pr3 casting
supertech valvetrain
toda "b"
AEBS (pro. product.) I/M and T/b
not sure on the header

Block:
o/s pr3
arp rod bolts

As it stands my compression is close to a stock b16 and i think im overcammed.
Ive kinda given up on the b17 idea considering the chassis is a porker and i think a LS/VTEC would get my heavy *** car moving a bit quicker.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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my b17a would be going in my ej2 which weigh about 2200. If it was any heavier i would have gone with b18c. Does a b17a out perform a b16a? Would it yield a lot more whp and tq if both motor had the same mods?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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b16 block 82.00mm
b17 crank and rods
pr3 pistons
stock b16 head
itr i/m
vibrant header
b16 tranny

no dynos numbers but in a 2000 pound car went 12.91@105
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D.LandaPerformance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 block 82.00mm
b17 crank and rods
pr3 pistons
stock b16 head
itr i/m
vibrant header
b16 tranny

no dynos numbers but in a 2000 pound car went 12.91@105</TD></TR></TABLE>

nice what was your 60" foot did you use slicks? was that with stock cams? With the the b17a crank did the car feel like it had more torque?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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i hv owned several DA integra gsr w/ b17 engine, never had one of those engines in a hatch before, i hv tried different bolt-ons on them to see what the engine needs the most.
one of mine was 92 integra gsr, ran 14.5@95 w/ bolt-ons (I/H/E/clutch/flywheel) on street tires, gutted.
my other one went 15.1@92 bone stock w/ just an aem cai, removed muffler and full interior.
the strongest one i had went 14.2@96 w/ full bolt-on and ctr pulley and 01 itr cams, street tires, gutted 92 integra gsr.
a frd of mine had one same set-up except blox b cams, valvetrain and phearable.net ecu went 14.0@98 w/ some 225/50/15 front tires. untuned.

never dyno all mine were using stock p61 ecu and fpr. these engines love 4-2-1 header, aggresive timing due to lower compression and flywheel helps a bunch. gotta love the bore-stroke ratio of b17. hope this helps.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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i hv timeslips but never dyno my cars. love the tranny, on a budget build, i would keep stock block, and most importantly, stock or obd1 b16 intake manifold, get some mild cams(ctr or blox a/stage 1), stock compression, get phearable.net chipped p28 w/ basemap or leave stock p61 and get fpr, run agressive timing, u will be very impressive w/ how those motors perform, they spank b18c1 integra anytime.


Modified by rare92gsr at 8:29 PM 6/6/2007
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid96EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Here is the chart. 5whp less then I said, oops. Doing this with B17 pistons might be a touch on the rough side due to the low compression. You would be VERY limited in the cams that you could run and that would be the problem.
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PR3 head on b17's right??
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

nice what was your 60" foot did you use slicks? was that with stock cams? With the the b17a crank did the car feel like it had more torque? </TD></TR></TABLE>

60ft was 1.75 was using 20x8x14 slicks.Yeah this was done with stock cams.It did feel like it had more torque nothing crazy but more than a regular b16 for sure.
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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b17 motor is superb. i used to have a 92 gs-r and i was spraying 120 wet untuned. everything was stock no upgrades at all. that block really held up. that motor had 220,000 miles on it too. should have kept it and try boost. haha. best i ever did without nitrous was 15.0 on bfg street slicks.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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so it's possible to get that 180 whp and 120 tq? with p30 pistons and tuning?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so it's possible to get that 180 whp and 120 tq? with p30 pistons and tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it depends on the mods.
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