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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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ok so my friend is getting a 2006 mini cooper s for his fist car in a month, and of course were very competitive and want to know who's car would win, i already know that his probably would, but what would i need to have under the hood to win against his stock mini cooper s?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Probably 35more HP. At least.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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A turbo ! Much more performance oriented car tuned by the Germans.

SPECIFICATIONS
2006 Mini Cooper S

Base Price $ 20,600
Price As Tested $ 27,950
Engine Type dual overhead cam, 16-valve inline
4-cylinder
Engine Size 1.6 liters / 97 cu. in.
Horsepower 168 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 162 @ 4000 rpm
Transmission 6-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 97.1 in. / 143.9 in.
Curb Weight 2679 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 15.9
Fuel Capacity 13.2 gal.
Fuel Requirement 91 octane unleaded premium gasoline
Tires 205/45 VR17 Dunlop Sport 9000 (opt)

Brakes, front/rear vented disc / solid disc
Suspension, front/rear independent MacPherson strut /
independent multilink
Drivetrain front engine, front-wheel drive

PERFORMANCE
EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon
city / highway / observed 25 / 32 / 25
0 to 60 mph 6.8 sec
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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obviously the mini cooper s would kill your car.

your gonna need more help than you can get!
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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ya but hes not getting a manual he is getting an auto trany, but i guess doesn't make much difference
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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I didnt know you could get the S in auto.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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ya, i used to work at BMW so i know the 06's can be in an auto with paddle shifters
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Thats kinda cool.....

Im sure the auto tranny will still whoop you pretty good.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WILD_WILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A turbo !</TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe it's supercharged.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Sorry i meant by that comment he would need a turbo !
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe it's supercharged. </TD></TR></TABLE>

New ones are turbo.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

New ones are turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

the new version is turbo and has 172hp... how much did the SC'd one have?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the new version is turbo and has 172hp... how much did the SC'd one have?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like 163 or 168hp.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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the 2006 ones have 168.


but would i be better going with an ajp turbo or an red shift motor sports supercharger?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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How about you just make fun of how if he gets hit by anything bigger than another mini, hes going to die... you however, will be in a very safe, very large aftermarket car.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lemons 6245 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 2006 ones have 168.


but would i be better going with an ajp turbo or an red shift motor sports supercharger?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the second time I've seen someone mention a supercharger for the FG1... does one even exist or are people getting confused with the k20 SC?
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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most definitely a new mini cooper type S.

have you seen the improvements they made on it?

lighter engine, better gas mileage for both S and non-S. Larger - slightly wider, taller, longer. Better handling, etc. more personalizing options.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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yes their is a supercharger coming out for the FG1 go to redshiftmotorsports.com

and im know about the new mini's but im not talking about the 2007 one's.

hes getting a 2006. only the new 2007 ones have the bigger engine and are turbo

so im talking about a 2006 honda civic ex vs. a 2006 mini cooper s
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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I'd like to see the rich little **** that gets a MINI cooper S for his first car. He'll probably crash it in a month. Reminds me of the kids in my hs.

Just drive carefully with your first car and give him the finger when you pass by his totalled car. Open the sunroof on your EX and shout "I get 30 mpg and I don't crash into ****...bitch!"
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the new version is turbo and has 172hp... how much did the SC'd one have?</TD></TR></TABLE>

S/C 2006 Cooper S = 214 hp and 184 ft/lb. torque. And it's lighter than the EX i believe. If he gets that car OP you're screwed. You'll need more than just a turbo to take that thing out.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S/C 2006 Cooper S = 214 hp and 184 ft/lb. torque. And it's lighter than the EX i believe. If he gets that car OP you're screwed. You'll need more than just a turbo to take that thing out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

The JOhn Works edition had that kind of power, but the regular S had the 168hp. The John Works package was like a $4k option.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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Well the OP said his friend was rich so i was just throwing out the worst-case scenario.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the OP said his friend was rich so i was just throwing out the worst-case scenario. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hehehe nice. If he was that rich I would assume he'd be buying a new Mini, not an 06.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hehehe nice. If he was that rich I would assume he'd be buying a new Mini, not an 06. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then again if he were really rich he should just toss the Cooper into a lake and get an M3.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about you just make fun of how if he gets hit by anything bigger than another mini, hes going to die... you however, will be in a very safe, very large aftermarket car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually the crash test ratings are the same if not better for the Bmw mini that the civic i believe.
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