im looking to trade my turbo civic which is alot of fun and pretty quik for 7psi, but i miss my accords


what kind of power are you all making on stock motors? what are the weak points? i have a t3 60/63 im planning on using

are some f motors better for boost? im looking at 94+ accords 5 speeds

im not looking to make a race car, if was shooting for fastest i would keep my civic which is probly already equivelnt to a 250hp accord at only 180whp
(just a guess because of the wieght)

 

a good conditioned f22b1 with a properly sized turbo and proper tuning will make 250whp no problem. the weak points are the ringlands

 

definately would agree with the above, the ringlands dont take much before they go. given you have proper fuel management and tuning you can get pretty far on them but obviously the further you push the less margin for error you have with them.

250 whp should be pretty easily reached with that turbo and the supporting mods... although I would say it should be slightly faster than a 180whp civic (unless we are talking about a gutted hatch), but thats another discussion.

all f22's are pretty boost friendly with their lower compression ratios and such.

I managed to make over 300whp on a stock motor with a custom turbo kit and supporting mods... just get it tuned well.

 

Was it already mentioned that the 250hp comes standard with such luxury features as 250+ft/lb tq?

 

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all f22's are pretty boost friendly with their lower compression ratios and such.

I managed to make over 300whp on a stock motor with a custom turbo kit and supporting mods... just get it tuned well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

how much boost would you guys safely run on a f'series? im a turbo h guy so i just thoguht id ask incase i get bored and boost another accord with the F in it...

 

It's not the amount of boost that determines how far you can push a stock motor, it's horsepower levels. 10psi on a T25 isn't going to be the same as 10psi on a T70.

 

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im well aware of this ive built my own turbo setup and tuned the setup myself, i was just looking for a range that people usually run safely on typical t3 or t3/t4 setup... i mean most people know that STOCK h22's can usually only support up to 10psi (300 whp) and i was just wondering what kind of boost it would take to get in the 250hp range with an f22

 

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If you tune your widgets just slightly east of the magnetic deviation and tweak your NOS stickers a smidge clockwise so they're heading in to the wind, then I'd say you could throw down up to 11.068 hp on less than 30 pounds of boost.


Now, I'm nowhere near omnicient regarding FI, but it's quite obvious that you asked a completely open ended question...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboH22Aakkord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im well aware of this ive built my own turbo setup and tuned the setup myself, i was just looking for a range that people usually run safely on typical t3 or t3/t4 setup... i mean most people know that STOCK h22's can usually only support up to 10psi (300 whp) and i was just wondering what kind of boost it would take to get in the 250hp range with an f22 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok then. On a T3 or T3/T04, you ask? On those turbos, at 8psi, I've seen people reach anywhere from 190whp to 235whp. On those turbos, at 10 psi, I've seen people reach anywhere from 220whp to 275whp. You can try to take a guess from there. You can also see why, in this situation, I think psi is nothing but a silly number.

 

yea apparently its more about moving volume of air... big turbo + big pressure = big power
right now im on a t3-t04e 60 trim at 10-13 psi so im probably pushing the limit of my motor... *crosses fingers*

 

i've been running a GT28R on 12psi for a while now, i swear the engine is begging me to turn the boost up rather than down

 

i'm still reading on the turbo set-up, but i have a quick ? can an f22b2 be boosted up to 8 psi and still run safe, cause all i ever see on these post is too boost the f22b1 or h22s

 

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The short, quick answer is yes, you can run 8psi safely. Of course, this is assuming it's on a decent tune and decent management.

 

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If you tune your widgets just slightly east of the magnetic deviation and tweak your NOS stickers a smidge clockwise so they're heading in to the wind, then I'd say you could throw down up to 11.068 hp on less than 30 pounds of boost.


Now, I'm nowhere near omnicient regarding FI, but it's quite obvious that you asked a completely open ended question...</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude...wtf... first, no need for cocksuckerness
2nd, open ended?? whats so hard about typing the amount of boost you run in your setup? thats not very open ended to me...

 

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Ok then. On a T3 or T3/T04, you ask? On those turbos, at 8psi, I've seen people reach anywhere from 190whp to 235whp. On those turbos, at 10 psi, I've seen people reach anywhere from 220whp to 275whp. You can try to take a guess from there. You can also see why, in this situation, I think psi is nothing but a silly number.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks man... good info.. thats pritty much what i was currious about.. ive never worked with an f'series only h's and most people know that as a limit on those ruffly10lbs (around 300whp) is the limit on stock sleeves and i just wanted to know what you guys push your f22's to on a stock basis