Looking for a 195/50/14
I know they make these, but I have been unable to find any. Does anyone know where I can buy them. I got some HX wheels, but the tires on them are way to big. I would like a tire that performs well also. Thanks in advance.
That tire size is MUCH too small for just about any Honda/Acura car.
What kind of car do you have (model, year, version)?
If this is for your 93 Civic DX hatch, the tire size you need for 14" wheels is 185/60-14. The best tire available in that size is the Yokohama ES100, $72/tire at the Tire Rack. Very good dry traction, excellent in rain, lasts a long time. (Not recommended for snow, but you don't have to worry about that where you live.)
What kind of car do you have (model, year, version)?
If this is for your 93 Civic DX hatch, the tire size you need for 14" wheels is 185/60-14. The best tire available in that size is the Yokohama ES100, $72/tire at the Tire Rack. Very good dry traction, excellent in rain, lasts a long time. (Not recommended for snow, but you don't have to worry about that where you live.)
Yes I do have a 93 Dx hatch. I had 195/50/15's on some C10's. I now have HX wheels and I just thought that a 60 series tire would look to big. That is why I was asking about 50 series tires. I found plenty of 60 series on every website I went to, but no 50 series in 14". So is the 60 series what most are running on their HX wheels?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jays93eg6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the 60 series what most are running on their HX wheels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The proper tire size depends on the car, not just on the wheels. And the proper tire size has to take the treadwidth (185) into account, not just the aspect ratio (60). The objective in choosing a tire size is to find one whose outer diameter is as close as possible to the outer diameter of the stock size for the car (which keeps the speedometer and odometer accurate) and isn't a whole lot wider (which, together with the similar diameter, keeps the tires from rubbing on the wheel wells).
You can look at the calculated outer diameters of these sizes and see how they compare with your stock size, and why 185/60-14 and 195/50-15 are good, but 195/50-14 is bad:
175/70-13 22.65 inches (stock)
185/60-14 22.74 inches (+0.4 percent)
195/50-15 22.68 inches (+0.1 percent)
195/50-14 21.68 inches (-4.3 percent)
The proper tire size depends on the car, not just on the wheels. And the proper tire size has to take the treadwidth (185) into account, not just the aspect ratio (60). The objective in choosing a tire size is to find one whose outer diameter is as close as possible to the outer diameter of the stock size for the car (which keeps the speedometer and odometer accurate) and isn't a whole lot wider (which, together with the similar diameter, keeps the tires from rubbing on the wheel wells).
You can look at the calculated outer diameters of these sizes and see how they compare with your stock size, and why 185/60-14 and 195/50-15 are good, but 195/50-14 is bad:
175/70-13 22.65 inches (stock)
185/60-14 22.74 inches (+0.4 percent)

195/50-15 22.68 inches (+0.1 percent)

195/50-14 21.68 inches (-4.3 percent)

OK thanks for that. I guess I should have mentioned that I have a Turbod B18C in this car and I need a tire that isn't going to spin very easily. I guess I could go with drag radials up front, but I am only using these wheels until my car is finished being painted. Then its back to 15" rims and tires.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jays93eg6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I should have mentioned that I have a Turbod B18C in this car and I need a tire that isn't going to spin very easily. I guess I could go with drag radials up front, but I am only using these wheels until my car is finished being painted. Then its back to 15" rims and tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then, when you go back to 15" wheels, you may want to get a better tire. The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is the best street tire available in 195/50-15. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line summer tire and it's very good indeed. (This is the tire that won the recent tire test in Car and Driver.) $91/tire at the Tire Rack (currently on back order).
Then, when you go back to 15" wheels, you may want to get a better tire. The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 is the best street tire available in 195/50-15. It's Goodyear's top-of-the-line summer tire and it's very good indeed. (This is the tire that won the recent tire test in Car and Driver.) $91/tire at the Tire Rack (currently on back order).
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Are you kidding???
Since when do most of use run the "proper size" tires on our cars? For that matter the "proper size" anything? These cars don't the "proper size" motor, "proper size" springs or "proper size" anything else. We modify everything we can on these cars. I think he is looking for a tire that will give his car more performance and doesn't care if it cost him tire wear or if the speedometer is off a little.
Since when do most of use run the "proper size" tires on our cars? For that matter the "proper size" anything? These cars don't the "proper size" motor, "proper size" springs or "proper size" anything else. We modify everything we can on these cars. I think he is looking for a tire that will give his car more performance and doesn't care if it cost him tire wear or if the speedometer is off a little.
Yea I am looking for a quailty tire in 14". I have a new set of Work Emotion Cr-Kai in 15", but until my car is finished I am going to be using the newly polished hx wheels. I just want a tire that handles well and that was the reason for my original post.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Charlie Moua »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a set of HX rims too that I need info on what everyone is running on</TD></TR></TABLE>
The best tire size depends on the CAR, not just on the rims. What kind of car do you have (year, model, version)?
For example, the best tire size for 14" rims on a del sol, CRX, or pre-'96 Civic is 185/60-14. But the best tire size for 14" rims on an Integra or '97-00 Civic is either 185/65-14 or 195/60-14 (either one will work).
The best tire size depends on the CAR, not just on the rims. What kind of car do you have (year, model, version)?
For example, the best tire size for 14" rims on a del sol, CRX, or pre-'96 Civic is 185/60-14. But the best tire size for 14" rims on an Integra or '97-00 Civic is either 185/65-14 or 195/60-14 (either one will work).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow you should really read up on tire before talking **** when you don't know ****!</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are talking to me, maybe you could explain what you mean instead just using some foul language. Very few people on Honda-tech have stock unmodded cars. The original question was where could he buy some 195/50/14 tires. He said he was looking for a performance tire. I would think he just wanted an answer.
If you are talking to me, maybe you could explain what you mean instead just using some foul language. Very few people on Honda-tech have stock unmodded cars. The original question was where could he buy some 195/50/14 tires. He said he was looking for a performance tire. I would think he just wanted an answer.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sikocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are talking to me, maybe you could explain what you mean instead just using some foul language. Very few people on Honda-tech have stock unmodded cars. The original question was where could he buy some 195/50/14 tires. He said he was looking for a performance tire. I would think he just wanted an answer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't speak for Dave, but you sure sound like you don't know much about tires, the way you just go off on a mini-rant about mods - an entirely different issue - without really understanding what you need to consider when choosing tires. When someone goes off on a rant on an entirely different subject like that, 10 times out of 10 it's because they don't really understand the question or an accurate answer to it. And when someone tries speaking for someone else, like when you claim to know the original poster's needs better than he does instead of letting him say what he wants, well, that's just more proof that you're not really listening to anyone here. If you knew anything about tires, you would have already realized that there is more to meeting someone's needs than simply answering the question being asked, especially if the information provided is inadequate for coming up with an appropriate answer, as in this case.
The fact is, you have to be just as careful buying tires as you are mods or any other parts for your car. You have to decide what trade-offs you want, in terms of choosing tires for dry traction, wet traction, treadlife, and price, trade-offs that may or may not be different from the manufacturers' intentions. The same thing is true when choosing a tire size, which affects the geometry of the suspension, the rate of acceleration, the accuracy of the speedometer/odometer, rubbing on the wheel wells, the ride height, etc - all are important factors to consider. In general, it's best not to stray too far from the outer diameter of the stock tire size in order to minimize problems in ALL of these areas, unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise (which in this case, there isn't).
Bottom line in this case, there aren't any 195/50-14 tires available, and even if there were, they would be a poor choice for his car (unless he's trying to make it into a low rider, which it doesn't appear he is trying to do).
Stick around, and do more listening and less ranting. You might learn something.
Modified by nsxtasy at 10:16 PM 1/23/2007
I don't speak for Dave, but you sure sound like you don't know much about tires, the way you just go off on a mini-rant about mods - an entirely different issue - without really understanding what you need to consider when choosing tires. When someone goes off on a rant on an entirely different subject like that, 10 times out of 10 it's because they don't really understand the question or an accurate answer to it. And when someone tries speaking for someone else, like when you claim to know the original poster's needs better than he does instead of letting him say what he wants, well, that's just more proof that you're not really listening to anyone here. If you knew anything about tires, you would have already realized that there is more to meeting someone's needs than simply answering the question being asked, especially if the information provided is inadequate for coming up with an appropriate answer, as in this case.
The fact is, you have to be just as careful buying tires as you are mods or any other parts for your car. You have to decide what trade-offs you want, in terms of choosing tires for dry traction, wet traction, treadlife, and price, trade-offs that may or may not be different from the manufacturers' intentions. The same thing is true when choosing a tire size, which affects the geometry of the suspension, the rate of acceleration, the accuracy of the speedometer/odometer, rubbing on the wheel wells, the ride height, etc - all are important factors to consider. In general, it's best not to stray too far from the outer diameter of the stock tire size in order to minimize problems in ALL of these areas, unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise (which in this case, there isn't).
Bottom line in this case, there aren't any 195/50-14 tires available, and even if there were, they would be a poor choice for his car (unless he's trying to make it into a low rider, which it doesn't appear he is trying to do).
Stick around, and do more listening and less ranting. You might learn something.

Modified by nsxtasy at 10:16 PM 1/23/2007
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