what's the difference between these two styles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1

one piece vs. two piece pipe (?)

is one better than the other?

any suggestions for a cheap-o ebay intakes? or any to avoid?

 

One is a cold air intake which goes down into the wheel well. And the other one is a Short Ram Intake. I have a short ram intake with a K&N filter sounds and works great.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thatasiankidtony &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One is a cold air intake which goes down into the wheel well. And the other one is a Short Ram Intake. I have a short ram intake with a K&N filter sounds and works great.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks, i just realized that when looking at some other pics (installed CAI's).

what's the advantages/disadvantages of the short ram intake vs. the longer one?

 

haha, i just realized the actual descriptions of the products say "short ram intake" and "cold air intake"

and i found this thread:

http://www.6thgenaccord.com/fo...=1836

as well as this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_air_intake

this is my understanding:

CAI: slightly greater performance increase due to colder air being drawn in, danger of hydrolock in very wet conditions

SRI: slightly lower performance increase due to warm air from engine bay being drawn in, no chance of water getting into the system

living in MN (snow) i think i'll just go with the short ram intake (also install will be easier).

what do you think? good choice? is the one on ebay (that i linked to) a decent one?

 

a short ram gives you the sound along with not the best performance , and a actual cai is cold air from out side the car being brought in , see a short ram sucks in hot air from the motor and a cai sucks it from outside ,but the cons are short ram sucks hot ait , cai can clog from water outside and not get good performance

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slotz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a short ram gives you the sound along with not the best performance , and a actual cai is cold air from out side the car being brought in , see a short ram sucks in hot air from the motor and a cai sucks it from outside ,but the cons are short ram sucks hot ait , cai can clog from water outside and not get good performance</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's about what i came up with (see my previous post).


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FallenAngelHIM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one other thing, the 2 piece cold air intake is convertible from short ram to cold air and vice versa. that's advantageous because you have remove the cold air pipe when it's the rainy season and reattach it during the summer. you get the best of both worlds without the hassle of removing the entire intake or risking water being drafted into the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good point.

the ebay SRI has the extra 90 degree bend, so the filter points towards the front of the car. like this:



the ebay CAI (without the extra piece) points the filter towards the side of the car. like this:



is this going is an issue?

since they are very similarly priced, should i just go with the CAI to give myself the option of both configurations?

or should i just go with the SRI and stick with it (also due to the extra length vs. the CAI wo/the extension)?


Modified by xluben at 11:10 PM 1/18/2007

 

yeah i would go with CAI. if you do...dont forget to get a bypass valve to avoid hydrolocking your motor...water getting sucked up your intake into your motor.

 

The short ram is going to be alot louder than the CAI, this was the biggest thing for me when I got mine. That and the fact that incoming air will never be much above ambiant temp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gosu08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i would go with CAI. if you do...dont forget to get a bypass valve to avoid hydrolocking your motor...water getting sucked up your intake into your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bypass valve would cost me at least $20 more (only $30 for the SRI or CAI)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 19dabeast85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The short ram is going to be alot louder than the CAI, this was the biggest thing for me when I got mine. That and the fact that incoming air will never be much above ambiant temp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so you got which one.....

the ram air, due to more loudness

or did i read that wrong.

i'm leaning toward this one for simplicity:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...d=1,1

i really don't want ANY chance of hydro-lock. it's just not worth it for me to take the chance on installing a part that could (even once) cause me problems.

and cost is a big factor (so no bypass valve is a plus).


Modified by xluben at 11:09 PM 1/18/2007

 

the 2 piece allows you to change the style for the weather , plus you have the ability to use that AEM "breather thing" that keeps water from entering the engine.

 

NEITHER of them are going to do **** for your car, because its probably stock, (im assuming that because you asked what the difference was between the 2 intakes)

SO, other than being louder and being a waste of money, you wont gain any noticable performance out of it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standbackimapro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NEITHER of them are going to do **** for your car, because its probably stock, (im assuming that because you asked what the difference was between the 2 intakes)

SO, other than being louder and being a waste of money, you wont gain any noticable performance out of it </TD></TR></TABLE>


That is untrue. While horsepower gains will be minimal even with a CAI, throttle response will be much better. Also, you have to start somewhere with mods and most guides will tell you your first mods should be I/H/E... Most people new to modding cars are not gonna wake up thinking right away they want to do an engine swap or boost their car... You have to start somewhere.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standbackimapro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NEITHER of them are going to do **** for your car, because its probably stock, (im assuming that because you asked what the difference was between the 2 intakes)

SO, other than being louder and being a waste of money, you wont gain any noticable performance out of it </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep, totally stock.

i'm too concerned in driving like a race car
and it's only $30

so i'm gonna give it a shot.

 

An intake is an intake is an intake. You really won't notice a difference between any of them. And I guess I'm the oddball, but my CAI was MUCH louder than my short ram.

Oh, and there reasons why I'm using the stock intake again. And no, there was no difference in throttle response between any of the aftermarket and stock intakes. Again, maybe I'm just the oddball... or maybe everyone just thinks it's better after they install aftermarket intakes because it's "supposed" to be.

 

I agree, I always thought my Iceman CAI was louder than my SRI. Of course, the CAI didn't get loud until I was in the higher RPMs so it wasn't heard as often, and it's further away behind the bumper so the sound is bit more isolated in comparison to a SRI. Just my thought on it.

If your going to get a intake, just get the 2 piece. That way you can have the CAI during the summer and then just remove the bottom piece and have a SRI in the winter/rainy months. And make sure you replace the filter it comes with, with something better, most eBay intakes come with generic low quality filters. When you have the CAI pipe installed, just make sure you don't go splashing through HUGE puddles or drive on flooded streets and you'll be fine.