7th Gen (2006-2007) Six Speed Issues
#08798-9031 <--That is the part number for a special gearbox oil that Honda has started to use on its six speed 7 Gen cars. There is an equivalent Acura product for their big six speed cars.
The formulation was designed to address issues raised by enthusiastic drivers of cars like the Accord six speed and TL six speed, who complained about notchiness and even a difficulty getting into third gear specifically.
The normal maintenance schedule does not call for a change of gearbox oil until 30,000 miles. If you do not like the way your 7 Gen six speed is shifting, you might want to think about doing this ahead of schedule.
The formulation was designed to address issues raised by enthusiastic drivers of cars like the Accord six speed and TL six speed, who complained about notchiness and even a difficulty getting into third gear specifically.
The normal maintenance schedule does not call for a change of gearbox oil until 30,000 miles. If you do not like the way your 7 Gen six speed is shifting, you might want to think about doing this ahead of schedule.
You might have noticed some people even switching to a Syncromesh (GM) type of formulation in an effort to achieve the results that the new Honda formulation was designed to get.
I'm a little suspicious of the viscosity changes in the GM product and I'm glad that Honda came up with its own product.
A certain percentage of people who might complain about notchy and balky shifting in 7 Gen six speeds are people who engage in fairly aggressive shifting on starting out for a drive. The oil takes about ten minutes to warm up and provide full protection.
I'm a little suspicious of the viscosity changes in the GM product and I'm glad that Honda came up with its own product.
A certain percentage of people who might complain about notchy and balky shifting in 7 Gen six speeds are people who engage in fairly aggressive shifting on starting out for a drive. The oil takes about ten minutes to warm up and provide full protection.
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George, I've been using Syncomesh on my H22 with great results.
However it is nice to know Honda has put out their own product. I know I had read this somewhere a little while ago.
However it is nice to know Honda has put out their own product. I know I had read this somewhere a little while ago.
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It's also the clutch pushrod, one 7th gen'r along the way picked it up with that problem. If you get steel braided clutch lines that helps solve the problem.. (if you have been having a lot of master cylinder failures)
there is no 8th Gen. The current model is the 7th Gen. The concept Accord that was recently shown would be the next generation of the Accord making that the 8th Gen, but it's not out yet.
it's just reinforced 10w30(which is the stuff honda use back in the 80's and early 90's), just addivitive like anti-friction stuff.
from my personal experience, the NEW mtf is better than the old MTF in term of shifting quality, the difference is noticeable to say to least.
but if you are really **** like me, the NEW mtf is not as good as GM syncromesh FM, the fm stands for FRICTION MODIFIED. it's a fully syn. fluid that proven to be a gold formula for honda, it make the car shift alot better vs oem stuff. half of s2ki.com is running GM's stuff.
make sure it's the FM version, the regular version is not as good, the regular version is RUMORed to be the same as the pennzoil syncromesh, which is much cheaper at autozone
cliff:gmsmFM>new honda OEM MTF>old honda OEM MTF
from my personal experience, the NEW mtf is better than the old MTF in term of shifting quality, the difference is noticeable to say to least.
but if you are really **** like me, the NEW mtf is not as good as GM syncromesh FM, the fm stands for FRICTION MODIFIED. it's a fully syn. fluid that proven to be a gold formula for honda, it make the car shift alot better vs oem stuff. half of s2ki.com is running GM's stuff.
make sure it's the FM version, the regular version is not as good, the regular version is RUMORed to be the same as the pennzoil syncromesh, which is much cheaper at autozone
cliff:gmsmFM>new honda OEM MTF>old honda OEM MTF
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