hey, guys, I just bought a 91 std for 300 bucks, with no motor or trans, but it has B-series hubs, and the only spec of rust is surface about the size of a dime behind the right rear wheel. anyways, i was wondering if you guys had any opinions on which motor i should choose for a base and why. i know some about Hondas, but i'm not a Honda guru by any means, so i'm looking for advice. I am a mechanic, and have several other cars, so time for install is not really an issue, but money is (D@MN BILLS!) so if you know roundabout prices, that would be awesome too. I might be picking p a B16 shortlock this weekend from 1qwikef, but i'm not 100% sure, i though maybe CRVtec, so any ideas, please let me know. Oh, and if this is in the wrong forum, i apologize, i don't post often.

 

if you are thinking between B16a and CR/VTEC I would recomend a B18c (gsr motor) . Its going to be abit more expensive but well worth it, and alot of room for upgrades.

 

this topic has been covered alot theres no best or what should i put in my car, it really depends on how much money you want to spend b16's are good but the lack of power and torque will make you want a change in no time they can be turbo'd with great success lsvtec is good its like a b16 with torque but you will spend some money to do this if you do it the correct way i really could go on and on but im not use the search button and do a little reaserch on different setups there alot of knowledgable people on here thats have every differend setup just look around and decide how much money you want to spend your current and future goals ect
and ef's are fun no matter what powerplant is in them

 

Well, with budget in mind. I think you should only concider these"

B20 (all types)
B18a1/B18b1
B16a Gen I

I say this because they are the cheapest, one being they all came in the U.S. in the early years, and are available.

For a decent power upgrade any of these motors will sufice. A B16 swap, obdo that is, can be had for a little over 1000 bucks. and the ls's, especialy the DA integra motors and trannys can be had for cheap.

You will need this:

A new wiring harness, you can make it using your stock one.
Motor mounts
Shift linkage
and ofcourse stuff like new clutch, flywheel, seals etc...

Good luck, you can be be powered for around a grand or more if you get good deals.

 

if you have the money k series... but we are going to be realistic... CRVtec is a good choice and strong has high torque higher then most b series a good head (i have been told) is a b16a to match with the CRV block, not for sure but i have heard they are good with turbo cars... lsvtec is another good one with an b18b bottom and a b16a or gsr or type r head the b16a head would be the cheaper one.... if i had the time like you do i would do one of these 2 but that is me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twitch96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have the money k series... but we are going to be realistic... CRVtec is a good choice and strong has high torque higher then most b series a good head (i have been told) is a b16a to match with the CRV block, not for sure but i have heard they are good with turbo cars... lsvtec is another good one with an b18b bottom and a b16a or gsr or type r head the b16a head would be the cheaper one.... if i had the time like you do i would do one of these 2 but that is me </TD></TR></TABLE>

so you heard, you really dont know then. sorry to be dick, but to help the guy out, know your stuff.

 

Well, i'm pretty sure now that i want to go witha CRVtec setup. so i'm researching that now, thanks for the help y'all

 

make sure you build it up proper.... this would not be the best time to be cheap. GL

 

what head did you pick to use on your CRVtec

 

CRVTEC! yay. build it right buddy.

 

I just bought a PR3 b16 head, and an LS motor (150 bucks, w/ all acc.!) i'm picking them up tommorow, so I'll probably have the LS torn apart and ready for the machine shop by monday. As far as what i'll do machining wise, I'm not sure. doing ome more research tonight. Later

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skilly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just bought a PR3 b16 head, and an LS motor (150 bucks, w/ all acc.!) i'm picking them up tommorow, so I'll probably have the LS torn apart and ready for the machine shop by monday. As far as what i'll do machining wise, I'm not sure. doing ome more research tonight. Later </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good score on the cheap head...they're usually a mint. The ls block is a good choice...the b16's lack of torque will leave you wanting more. Think of a b16 as riding a 90cc dirtbike at full throttle...pretty pathetic but sounds mean. As far as machine work, invest in some ARP rod bolts for the stock LS rods...the oem ones are the exact same size that honda uses on d-series motors and are usually the first thing to fail at higher rpm's. Another thing to look into is an ls/vtec conversion kit...one that has the headstuds. It may cost a few bucks more than you want to spend, but it's well worth it to save the aggravation. BTW, you'll need either (A) an integra gsr water pump and timing belt, or (B) an LS water pump and timing belt...always match the belt to the water pump. I would reccomend going with choice A though...19 teeth on the water pumps might mean less coolant flow at lower rpm as compared to the LS's 22 teeth, but it also means no cavitation at higher rpm's either. If you don't get a kit, GSR headbolts/studs are a must.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twitch96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have the money k series... but we are going to be realistic... CRVtec is a good choice and strong has high torque higher then most b series a good head (i have been told) is a b16a to match with the CRV block, not for sure but i have heard they are good with turbo cars... lsvtec is another good one with an b18b bottom and a b16a or gsr or type r head the b16a head would be the cheaper one.... if i had the time like you do i would do one of these 2 but that is me </TD></TR></TABLE>
A b20 crv block does make good torque, but it's due to it's larger bore size (84mm compared to b18's and b16's 81mm). Other than that, a crv motor is almost identical to a b18a1/b1...same r/s ratio, same head design, but weaker sleeves. Not a good block to take in stock form and boost the crap out of. B16 heads do flow pretty well, type-r heads are a basic pr3 head that's ported from the factory and given an upgraded valvetrain. GSR head owns pr3's as far as combustion chamber design goes...better flame propogation and less chance of knocking. As far as actual port flow goes, gsr and pr3 (b16) are too close to even pick at.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s10cky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so you heard, you really dont know then. sorry to be dick, but to help the guy out, know your stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>I totally agree.

 

yeah, i'm going to run GSR water and oil pumps, ARP headstuds and Rod Bolts for sure, (plus i'm going to rebuild the motor, new seals, bearings, rings, etc.) The guy I bought the motor from said that he bought it a few months back just in cas ehe needed parts, so i don't even know if it runs. (Hence the rebuild) I just really need to decide wheter or not to go with forged internals and slightly upped compression, since i want to keep this build N/A. BTW, I got the LS motor for 150, the B16 head was 400, but got them from the same guy. I'm also having the head checked out at a macine shop, (valve seals and guides, etc.) I always say, do it right the frirst time, cuz it costs more and takes longer to do it over. anyways, gotta go read up on N/A LS/V builds, so peace.

 

ok, so i've decided to go with a built LS turbo, any special ideas?