as title, i have a set of factory hid unit that i am using with my eg stock headlight with adapter plate for d2r/d2s bulbs. i just wanted the clean cut light shine like hid light have. i was thinking of gettting a set of 92-95 civic projector headlight unit and put my hid kit onto the headlight. will the d2r/d2s bulb fit into the projector with h3 housing?? with minor cutting will the hid bulb fit ?? just wondering if anyone have try this.

 

While you may find some way to make the D2S (HID bulb for projectors) fit into your H3 housing, it will have horrible glare and cutoff. That projector, while as poor as it's RnD may be, it's still designed for halogen lighting.

In short, it's just a bad idea.

 

i have seen people here with retro fit hid(h3 style) for their projector and it look ok. thats why i want to see if the d2r hid bulb will fit into the h3 housing ok with enough clearance. the horrible glare only show when using regular h4 headlight unit without a adapter plate

 

I purchased a set of projectors that were "retrofitted" to HIDs.
Not really... they were the Denji H3 projectors with a set of D2S style bulbs stuck in them. The output sucked and the cut off was horable.
Dont' do it unless you plan on taking the housings apart and getting the bulb placement correct and mounted solidly.

if the bulb moves even slightly it will move the cut off line significantly, blinding other cars or causing the light output to suck even more.

 

ok, i guess i will past on that

 

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good idea. maybe you'll want to try hidplanet.com for an great retrofit

 

aren't civics h4????

 

if you hold an h3 bulb, and a d2r/d2s bulb side by side you will notice the filament and light capsule are not the same length from the baseplates. therefore if you could find a way to mount the d2r/d2s bulb in place of the h3 the light capsule would be way to far into the housing to reflct correctly, thus your glare problem.

do a retrofit, or if retrofit out of your price range buy these until you retrofit.
http://www.hidexpert.com/produ....html
http://www.hidexpert.com/

i put these in my oem housings in my dd, with oem acura hid's. looks good, no glare. i compared their output to an escalade in the bays at my work one day, almost exact same output pattern.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you hold an h3 bulb, and a d2r/d2s bulb side by side you will notice the filament and light capsule are not the same length from the baseplates. therefore if you could find a way to mount the d2r/d2s bulb in place of the h3 the light capsule would be way to far into the housing to reflct correctly, thus your glare problem.

do a retrofit, or if retrofit out of your price range buy these until you retrofit.
http://www.hidexpert.com/produ....html
http://www.hidexpert.com/

i put these in my oem housings in my dd, with oem acura hid's. looks good, no glare. i compared their output to an escalade in the bays at my work one day, almost exact same output pattern.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i have in my car now with oem hid unit. just wanted that clean light cut look. so it would only work if i were to get retrofit hids for the projector h3 unit. since the regular d2r lights are longer than h3. unless hids housing can fit into oem eg headlight unit??

 

I put an h3 hid kit in my 96-98 (i have a '00 hatchie now) aftermarket projectors & the results sucked MUCH worse than an hid kit in reflector housings... which I was running up until a week ago. I got sick of not having highbeams with my hid h4 kit in oem CTR housings w/casper shield

so I retrofitted acura TL bi-xenon projectors with a rare BMW zkw lense
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1815691

pics of finished product OEM CTR headlamps w/TL projectors & crysler crossfire shrouds... I still have a 'lil aiming to do & then seal 'em up

work-in-progress pic


finished




cutoff - need to aim a 'lil more

 

what about putting them into oem eg headlight unit??

 

TL's might be too tall b/c of solenoid for highbeam at the bottom of projector (you can see it with wires coming out in WIP pic - but I have it covered now)

you might be able to cut out the bottom of the reflector so TL's might fit but I dunno for sure

S2k & TSX are great single beam setups that would fit in eg's...I would suggest getting some euro clear headlamps for the clear lenses... your stock lenses are flutted & distort projection

 

So the Euro Style Headlights with two seperate lights for Lowbeam (projector) and Headbeam (reflector) are not good for aftermarket h4 HID kits? The H4 wouldn't fit in the projector lens would it?

 

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TYC looks better than others (I believe they use h1 bulbs for LOW BEAM) BUT they still don't look near as good a retro fit

I believe they "euro style" you refer to uses h3 in the projectors which SUCK BIG ***** for hids... you can always buy them & retro OE HID projectors but you may be limited by size of projectors. my TL's have a 3" lense

 

Screw It I just like the way that the black housing Euro Denji headlights look But If I have to put a **** load of effort into making my HID's look right then I'm gonna leave um in the stock headlight.

 

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Exactly. This is why you have to get the gas chamber of the HID bulb [the bulge] to sit directly where the filament bulge of the H3 bulb sits. If you can make this happen, you'll actually get pretty good results [I've seen a write up on it, and the outcome. I have never actually done this, though I started to]. You'll need some rubber washers to keep the HID bulb from sliding too far into the projector. Get a couple rubber washers on each side so that the HID gas chamber sits where the filament bulge is, and then JB weld the **** out of it or find some other way to secure the bulb.

I'm not saying this is a replacement for a true HID retrofit, but the guy who did this got good results. Once again, I've never personally done this, nor do I have a link to the write up [I was looking at this probably 4 years ago].

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=683685

 

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TYC looks better than others (I believe they use h1 bulbs for LOW BEAM) BUT they still don't look near as good a retro fit

I believe they "euro style" you refer to uses h3 in the projectors which SUCK BIG ***** for hids... you can always buy them & retro OE HID projectors but you may be limited by size of projectors. my TL's have a 3" lense </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have the TYC in my hatch and just installed 6000K HID and it has a very distinct, clear cutoff with a nice white to blue to purple color shift on the top of the cutoff. will post a couple of pics when i get to a camera. i will probably upgrade to a retrofitted OEM lamp in the future but for now it looks great with the $200 kit installed with H1 bulbs. The lights were $180 off Ebay, got the kit from a group buy on Mazda3 forums.