i'm planning to get lsd for my h22a1. i'm not sure which one to buy. obx off of ebay for $415, nopi lsd for $265, and kaaz for $820. will they be pretty similar?which one will be a good buy or is it "you get what you pay for"? if there's any experts in here, please give me some suggestions. thanks.

 

quaife or bust.

 

Stay the hell away from OBX.

Especially dealing with parts in your trans.

 

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Or a M2B4

 

Quaife = FTW

 

Nothing wrong with Kaaz. I had a Quaife, and I'm now running a Kaaz in the track car. I had a Quaife when it was a street car, then changed to a Kaaz when it became a track car.

 

do your research, there are a few ppl on hear who are running the obx, and as long as theyve taken apart, loctited and torqed down all the bolts, they are having no issues. But be sure to check and make sure the axel removal issue has been taken care of

 

hey 117, so what kind of differences did you feel between the kaaz and the quaife

 

Quaife is spring loaded, and can break easier... though pretty hard to do.

Kaaz is stronger but will do about the same on a track.

There's nothing wrong with obx. It cant take as much of a beating but I have 2 friends that have had them both for 2-3 years each with no problems.

 

Quaife = Quality + Lifetime warranty

 

what are the difference in performance and quality between kaaz and obx? btw, i'm planning to get this for street use only.

 

The Kaaz is good LSD and is Clutch type so it will require servicing over time

The OBX is a crapshoot...works good for some and horrible for other.

I personally will never ever install an OBX differential again...just based off the lack of quality control and totally inconsistent clearances. When a customer brings me an LSD...its not my job to fix all the manufacturers problems...especially when the customer was too cheap to buy a quality LSD that will drop in with no issues and offer flawless service years after. Bottom line...its your wallet and your car...Just remember that a small mistake can cost a lot.

I am done preaching....use the SEARCH function if you want to know the difference between a Clutch type LSD and a Helical type LSD...this has been brought up time and time again...

 

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if they have the ***** to give you a lifetime warranty, you gotta know it's some good ****. and if it isn't? who cares you got warranty!

 

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You have any evidence that the Quaife is weaker? I've seen an exploded Kaaz, but I have yet to see a grenaded Quaife.

 

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I can't really tell you. I've never driven the Kaaz on the street, and I hardly ever drove the Quaife on the street. From what I can tell, the Kaaz has a bit more torque steer, but I had PS when I had the Quaife, and a manual rack with the Kaaz.

The Kaaz will require rebuilding eventually, but I know of at least one group that has done two seasons on a Kaaz without any issues with slipping clutches. I've gone at least a season and a half on mine, but I haven't done as many track events as I wanted. You'll also need special fluid. The Kaaz fluid or the like. I've had VERY good luck with the GM Sychromesh FM fluid, even at high temps from track driving.

If you don't mind the extra maintenance, I'd say the Kaaz. The Quaife is more of an install and forget it item. The Kaaz will limit slip all the time, the Quaife must have both tires on the ground to limit slip.

 

The Kaaz has an advantage on the track just by the fact it is a clutch-type. When one of the front wheels is off the ground, the Quaife is going to be useless whereas the Kaaz will still do it's job.

As far as street driving goes, the Quaife will be much better through its smoother operation.

EDIT: The same points are in 117's post.

 

That is true. The Kaaz is noisy with slow tight corners because the plates have to slip.

 

Cool, I didn't know that about the Kaaz (as far as wheels being off the ground)

I've got a Quiafe and for drag racing its one of the better investments I have made to my car. I think Anthony (PrecisionH23a) is/was selling one too.

 

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I see talks about how lifting a wheel can be potentially hazardous to a Torsen's health.

It does seem to at least potentially happen once in awhile. *shrug*

 

I never said the Quaife would NEVER break, what I'm asking for is proof that the Quaife is weaker than the Kaaz. What I'm getting at is that it would be very difficult to figure out which one is "weaker" than the other without some real testing. Make sense?

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Ah, I see what you mean.

I wonder to what extent the things that would potentially break them overlap, if at all.

 

I'd imagine if you jumped a gator strip at a track and came down hard enough, you'd break either LSD. If you did a hard enough clutch dump with sticky tires, you could probably break either LSD.

I think as long as you drive with some restraint, both should be fine. The Kaaz will require a rebuild eventually, though. That is one thing to keep in mind.

 

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You mean AKA phantom grip?? Oh please! LOL!

There are some good points above. Take advantage of the good advice!

 

what tyoe of lsd is quaife? would it be good for street use? where can i find a quaife lsd for a good price?