Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap?????
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Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap?????
Hey guys im looking to buy 2 Bf goodrich drag radials and im having trouble finding a place for a good price.. IM looking for 225/50/15 tire size.. Plz pm me with suggestions of places that sell them for good deals>>>
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (PINKS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only 2 tires?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I assume he's only going to use these two tires for the drive wheels at the dragstrip. Common practice.
I assume he's only going to use these two tires for the drive wheels at the dragstrip. Common practice.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (PINKS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wanted to daily BFG's, is that not so common?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really. Drag radials wear out VERY fast, due to their soft compound and their shallow tread depth (typically 5/32", which means they have only about a third the usable tread depth of most street tires). You'll be lucky if they last you 5K miles.
For daily use, I wouldn't use anything more aggressive than the Falken Azenis RT-615. And even that won't last ALL that long (10-12K), but it's a lot better than drag radials.
Not really. Drag radials wear out VERY fast, due to their soft compound and their shallow tread depth (typically 5/32", which means they have only about a third the usable tread depth of most street tires). You'll be lucky if they last you 5K miles.
For daily use, I wouldn't use anything more aggressive than the Falken Azenis RT-615. And even that won't last ALL that long (10-12K), but it's a lot better than drag radials.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (nsxtasy)
Falken Azenis RT-615 aren't even comparable to BFG drags.
The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.
The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (TwinOptiX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwinOptiX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Falken Azenis RT-615 aren't even comparable to BFG drags.
The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't agree with this completely, while they are a bit heavy for use as true drag tires, they do provide excellent acceleration and deceleration grip due to the large stiff tread blocks. Of course a DOT legal drag tire will work better, but the Azenis will provide 90% of the straight line performance with 200+% of the treadwear and wet weather performance. If you are alright with sacrificing turning ability, treadwear, and wet weather performance on the street, go with the BFG Drags. If you want a street tire that will do most things admirably, get the Azenis.
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The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't agree with this completely, while they are a bit heavy for use as true drag tires, they do provide excellent acceleration and deceleration grip due to the large stiff tread blocks. Of course a DOT legal drag tire will work better, but the Azenis will provide 90% of the straight line performance with 200+% of the treadwear and wet weather performance. If you are alright with sacrificing turning ability, treadwear, and wet weather performance on the street, go with the BFG Drags. If you want a street tire that will do most things admirably, get the Azenis.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (HondaF1Fanatic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwinOptiX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Falken Azenis RT-615 aren't even comparable to BFG drags.
The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reading comprehension 0wnz j00!
Apparently you didn't bother reading my post or the post it was replying to. I suggested the Azenis in response to the question above it, asking about using tires for daily driving. For the original poster, whose the tires are specifically for drag racing, by all means use drag radials!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't agree with this completely, while they are a bit heavy for use as true drag tires, they do provide excellent acceleration and deceleration grip due to the large stiff tread blocks. Of course a DOT legal drag tire will work better, but the Azenis will provide 90% of the straight line performance with 200+% of the treadwear and wet weather performance. If you are alright with sacrificing turning ability, treadwear, and wet weather performance on the street, go with the BFG Drags. If you want a street tire that will do most things admirably, get the Azenis.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The falkens are a road racing/autocross tire with a stiff sidewall designed to resist side roll during high speed cornering. They are a street version of an R comp tire and don't work well in drag racing situations.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reading comprehension 0wnz j00!
Apparently you didn't bother reading my post or the post it was replying to. I suggested the Azenis in response to the question above it, asking about using tires for daily driving. For the original poster, whose the tires are specifically for drag racing, by all means use drag radials!<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't agree with this completely, while they are a bit heavy for use as true drag tires, they do provide excellent acceleration and deceleration grip due to the large stiff tread blocks. Of course a DOT legal drag tire will work better, but the Azenis will provide 90% of the straight line performance with 200+% of the treadwear and wet weather performance. If you are alright with sacrificing turning ability, treadwear, and wet weather performance on the street, go with the BFG Drags. If you want a street tire that will do most things admirably, get the Azenis.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (95dc2teg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to thread jack but as anyone tried the BFG KDW2's? Are they any good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a good tire, but not a good value. Good dry traction, good wet traction, decent treadlife, but very high purchase price. It's similar in performance to tires like the Kumho SPT and Yokohama ES100, but costs almost twice as much, depending on size.
For most folks, the Kumho SPT is a better choice, because it gives similar performance for half the price. If you don't care all that much about purchase price but you really care about performance (dry and wet) and/or treadlife, you can get better all-around performance than the KDW2 for about the same money from other tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. As another choice, if you don't care about anything except dry performance, you can get much better performance from the supersticky (but fast-wearing) Falken Azenis RT-615.
It's a good tire, but not a good value. Good dry traction, good wet traction, decent treadlife, but very high purchase price. It's similar in performance to tires like the Kumho SPT and Yokohama ES100, but costs almost twice as much, depending on size.
For most folks, the Kumho SPT is a better choice, because it gives similar performance for half the price. If you don't care all that much about purchase price but you really care about performance (dry and wet) and/or treadlife, you can get better all-around performance than the KDW2 for about the same money from other tires like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. As another choice, if you don't care about anything except dry performance, you can get much better performance from the supersticky (but fast-wearing) Falken Azenis RT-615.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (PINKS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Azenis for a grippy 300whp with traction bars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup.
If you want to daily drive with drag radials that only last a few thousand miles, go ahead. Or you can get the Azenis and they'll last you a lot longer, maybe 10-12K miles, and they'll stick better than any other street tire; they'll also turn better than drag radials, but they won't accelerate as well. That's the basic trade-off between the two.
I wouldn't recommend anything LESS sticky than the Azenis for a high-horsepower application (unless you plan to drive it in the rain a lot, in which case I'd suggest another sticky tire but one that does better in rain, like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3).
Yup.
If you want to daily drive with drag radials that only last a few thousand miles, go ahead. Or you can get the Azenis and they'll last you a lot longer, maybe 10-12K miles, and they'll stick better than any other street tire; they'll also turn better than drag radials, but they won't accelerate as well. That's the basic trade-off between the two.
I wouldn't recommend anything LESS sticky than the Azenis for a high-horsepower application (unless you plan to drive it in the rain a lot, in which case I'd suggest another sticky tire but one that does better in rain, like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3).
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yup.
If you want to daily drive with drag radials that only last a few thousand miles, go ahead. Or you can get the Azenis and they'll last you a lot longer, maybe 10-12K miles, and they'll stick better than any other street tire; they'll also turn better than drag radials, but they won't accelerate as well. That's the basic trade-off between the two.
I wouldn't recommend anything LESS sticky than the Azenis for a high-horsepower application (unless you plan to drive it in the rain a lot, in which case I'd suggest another sticky tire but one that does better in rain, like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3).
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How does the SPT fit in with the RT-615 and the F1 GS-D3 in terms of high horsepower? I'm running 711's right now and they're pretty much useless in 1st and 2nd gear.
Anyone seen this thread? https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
Sorry about the hijack.
Yup.
If you want to daily drive with drag radials that only last a few thousand miles, go ahead. Or you can get the Azenis and they'll last you a lot longer, maybe 10-12K miles, and they'll stick better than any other street tire; they'll also turn better than drag radials, but they won't accelerate as well. That's the basic trade-off between the two.
I wouldn't recommend anything LESS sticky than the Azenis for a high-horsepower application (unless you plan to drive it in the rain a lot, in which case I'd suggest another sticky tire but one that does better in rain, like the Goodyear F1 GS-D3).
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How does the SPT fit in with the RT-615 and the F1 GS-D3 in terms of high horsepower? I'm running 711's right now and they're pretty much useless in 1st and 2nd gear.
Anyone seen this thread? https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
Sorry about the hijack.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (gpomp)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gpomp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How does the SPT fit in with the RT-615 and the F1 GS-D3 in terms of high horsepower? I'm running 711's right now and they're pretty much useless in 1st and 2nd gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is a huge difference in performance between the 711 and the SPT. On dry pavement, there is a fairly big difference in performance between the SPT and the RT-615, too.
The SPT is a great all-around tire for a daily driver where you're going to be racking up a lot of miles. Dry traction is pretty good, they're awesome in the rain, they last a long time (30-45K miles), and they're inexpensive.
The RT-615 is much more specialized for dry traction to the exclusion of almost everything else. Dry traction is outstanding, wet traction is so-so, treadlife is somewhat short (10-12K miles), and they're somewhat inexpensive.
The F1 GS-D3 is better than the SPT in performance (both wet and dry), and also lasts a long time. They're rather expensive.
So those are the trade-offs. You need to think about your personal priorities to choose among them. Personally, if I had a high-horsepower car, I would try to use the best tires I could, tires that could handle the high horsepower, and I would lean towards the Azenis (if I didn't have to worry about wet traction or treadlife) or the Goodyears (if wet traction and/or treadlife were a concern). And in saying that, I intend no disrespect towards the SPT, which offers awesome value for the money and is a great choice for anything other than a high-horsepower car.
There is a huge difference in performance between the 711 and the SPT. On dry pavement, there is a fairly big difference in performance between the SPT and the RT-615, too.
The SPT is a great all-around tire for a daily driver where you're going to be racking up a lot of miles. Dry traction is pretty good, they're awesome in the rain, they last a long time (30-45K miles), and they're inexpensive.
The RT-615 is much more specialized for dry traction to the exclusion of almost everything else. Dry traction is outstanding, wet traction is so-so, treadlife is somewhat short (10-12K miles), and they're somewhat inexpensive.
The F1 GS-D3 is better than the SPT in performance (both wet and dry), and also lasts a long time. They're rather expensive.
So those are the trade-offs. You need to think about your personal priorities to choose among them. Personally, if I had a high-horsepower car, I would try to use the best tires I could, tires that could handle the high horsepower, and I would lean towards the Azenis (if I didn't have to worry about wet traction or treadlife) or the Goodyears (if wet traction and/or treadlife were a concern). And in saying that, I intend no disrespect towards the SPT, which offers awesome value for the money and is a great choice for anything other than a high-horsepower car.
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Re: Bf Goodrich Drag radial..Where to Find For Cheap????? (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The F1 GS-D3 is better than the SPT in performance (both wet and dry), and also lasts a long time. They're rather expensive.
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I think it is worth it to spend a bit more for the F1 GS-D3 because Calgary gets a decent amount of moisture, and they will perform at a noticeably higher level than the SPT. Like nsxtasy said, the SPT is still a GREAT tire for the price, I just think you can do better in a high HP situation like yours.
Jon
The F1 GS-D3 is better than the SPT in performance (both wet and dry), and also lasts a long time. They're rather expensive.
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I think it is worth it to spend a bit more for the F1 GS-D3 because Calgary gets a decent amount of moisture, and they will perform at a noticeably higher level than the SPT. Like nsxtasy said, the SPT is still a GREAT tire for the price, I just think you can do better in a high HP situation like yours.
Jon
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