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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Anyone else hear about them? Heard the news, thought I'd give them some time for a press release, but nothing yet.

Only link I could find about the rotors so far.

Certainly got my attention.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Wow! Missed this news. I am familiar with how these are usually made but I wonder how these differ in manufacturing from what you would find on the run of the mill supercars. I always wondered how anyone would manage to use these on a road car but maybe these must heat up quick and have decent cold stopping power if they will be used on road cars on the street. Maybe this is a race only deal though.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">run of the mill supercars</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is there such thing
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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We really can't get into any specifics, but we are in the final stages of testing and are very excited to be able to offer this new product. Apart from the obvious light weight, and high price tag there isn't any more detail that can be given until we're ready to offer them for sale.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe this is a race only deal though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The rotors will be dual purpose, pretty much like everything else we offer.

As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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will these possibly be available to replace OEM rotors, like, ITR/NSX stuff?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will these possibly be available to replace OEM rotors, like, ITR/NSX stuff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not currently planned.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Hi Matt,

I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?

Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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i think, if it was available, it'd sell well.. lots of guys running ITR brakes on track cars, HC cars, etc.. maybe not, but it'd be an idea
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MattD@Stoptech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That makes sense in so many ways. Even if they come in at $1000 per corner I bet you will sell lots of them.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think, if it was available, it'd sell well.. lots of guys running ITR brakes on track cars, HC cars, etc.. maybe not, but it'd be an idea</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bet a set of rotors costs more than 90% of HC racers annual budget. If HC racers don't like buying $50 rotors I doubt a few grand for a rotor will sell. I can see these selling from high-end cars though.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can see these selling from high-end cars though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe H1 and Unlimited classes?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Matt,

I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?

Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honestly, I'm not sure we will offer the CMC option on rotors that size, and you would need to place them on all corners so that there are no balance issues from friction curve differences. But only time will tell, it's too early for me to really give an answer as to what sizes will be offered.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think, if it was available, it'd sell well.. lots of guys running ITR brakes on track cars, HC cars, etc.. maybe not, but it'd be an idea</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stoptech has a 2 piece directional iron rotor /aluminum hat combo that is fully floating in ITR size that fits in a stock ITR caliper for 4 lug and 5 lug but the people here tend to love stock only. Saddly this does not sound like a place for this high technology rotor.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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yeah, true story...i guess you could kill a lot of autozone rotors for the price of something absolutely amazing like these.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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but you will never get the acceleration benefit of the lighter rotor, the less unsprung weight, and and and ..
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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plus without 4,000$ in my wallet i can acelerate a lot faster too
plus my *** wont hurt as much it was getting lop sided

*just jking im sure they are amazing
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think, if it was available, it'd sell well.. lots of guys running ITR brakes on track cars, HC cars, etc.. maybe not, but it'd be an idea</TD></TR></TABLE>
any racer or open tracker with more brains than money wouldnt waste any cash on this.

show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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What test data are you basing that on? If they end up lowering lap times and you have the cash to spend why wouldn't you do it. I guess it all depends on what lengths someone will go to make their car faster or gain a competitive edge. In my experience racing people pay a lot to go faster than the other guy. For god sakes nobody has even seen a price on these yet. Innovation has always been good for racing, I say support innovators even if you don't buy this particular product. For the record I don't know anybody at Stoptech but I can;t stand it when people slam something new like this before much is known. Who said it was for the Honda weekend warriors anyway?
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evan55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any racer or open tracker with more brains than money wouldnt waste any cash on this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Count me one of the few and the proud then. I'd love to drop 17bls+ in unsprung weight....PER WHEEL.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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That would be nice but my current rotors only weigh 11#
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I can;t stand it when people slam something new like this before much is known. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody seems to be slamming something "new", just saying that the cost of these will be more it's worth to most people.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who said it was for the Honda weekend warriors anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. I can't see many H-T Autocross or Road Racers using these.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evan55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's not a slam? okeedokey

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Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nobody but the guy that posted them in the road racing/autocross forum on Honda-Tech. Wouldn't posting them here suggest something to you? But I do agree on your other points.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nobody but the guy that posted them in the road racing/autocross forum on Honda-Tech. Wouldn't posting them here suggest something to you? But I do agree on your other points.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You mean the guy who tracks his NSX? He fits into the "track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic." category.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Yes of course the orignial poster would be an exception. I guess I'll say it again, I agree about who these are for.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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In my book, that drastic a weight reduction in unsprung weight would be worth the entry price. This is not a 8k supercharger, 4k in HRE, 4k w/ Stoptechs on all four corners, or a 20k engine rebuild. This would be around 10k for something that is going to help acceleration, handling, and braking.

Plus it'll last longer to boot. Woot.
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