Stoptech Carbon Rotors?
Anyone else hear about them? Heard the news, thought I'd give them some time for a press release, but nothing yet.
Only link I could find about the rotors so far.
Certainly got my attention.
Only link I could find about the rotors so far.
Certainly got my attention.
Wow! Missed this news. I am familiar with how these are usually made but I wonder how these differ in manufacturing from what you would find on the run of the mill supercars. I always wondered how anyone would manage to use these on a road car but maybe these must heat up quick and have decent cold stopping power if they will be used on road cars on the street. Maybe this is a race only deal though.
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Is there such thing
Is there such thing
We really can't get into any specifics, but we are in the final stages of testing and are very excited to be able to offer this new product. Apart from the obvious light weight, and high price tag there isn't any more detail that can be given until we're ready to offer them for sale.
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The rotors will be dual purpose, pretty much like everything else we offer.
As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.
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The rotors will be dual purpose, pretty much like everything else we offer.
As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.
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Not currently planned.
Not currently planned.
Hi Matt,
I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?
Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.
I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?
Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.
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As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That makes sense in so many ways. Even if they come in at $1000 per corner I bet you will sell lots of them.
As far as technology, we're focusing on the continuous strand technology instead of discontinuous fibers as seen in the Porsche PCCB system. The goal is to eliminate flaking, chipping, and cracking that Porsche PCCB users have experienced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That makes sense in so many ways. Even if they come in at $1000 per corner I bet you will sell lots of them.
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I bet a set of rotors costs more than 90% of HC racers annual budget. If HC racers don't like buying $50 rotors I doubt a few grand for a rotor will sell. I can see these selling from high-end cars though.
I bet a set of rotors costs more than 90% of HC racers annual budget. If HC racers don't like buying $50 rotors I doubt a few grand for a rotor will sell. I can see these selling from high-end cars though.
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Maybe H1 and Unlimited classes?
Maybe H1 and Unlimited classes?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Matt,
I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?
Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honestly, I'm not sure we will offer the CMC option on rotors that size, and you would need to place them on all corners so that there are no balance issues from friction curve differences. But only time will tell, it's too early for me to really give an answer as to what sizes will be offered.
I've got the front Stoptech BBK on my NSX. I'm supposing that the carbon brakes will be available for my application when the product is finally released?
Though I guess I'll have to do something about the rears now. Hmph.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honestly, I'm not sure we will offer the CMC option on rotors that size, and you would need to place them on all corners so that there are no balance issues from friction curve differences. But only time will tell, it's too early for me to really give an answer as to what sizes will be offered.
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Stoptech has a 2 piece directional iron rotor /aluminum hat combo that is fully floating in ITR size that fits in a stock ITR caliper for 4 lug and 5 lug but the people here tend to love stock only. Saddly this does not sound like a place for this high technology rotor.
Stoptech has a 2 piece directional iron rotor /aluminum hat combo that is fully floating in ITR size that fits in a stock ITR caliper for 4 lug and 5 lug but the people here tend to love stock only. Saddly this does not sound like a place for this high technology rotor.
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any racer or open tracker with more brains than money wouldnt waste any cash on this.
show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.
any racer or open tracker with more brains than money wouldnt waste any cash on this.
show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.
What test data are you basing that on? If they end up lowering lap times and you have the cash to spend why wouldn't you do it. I guess it all depends on what lengths someone will go to make their car faster or gain a competitive edge. In my experience racing people pay a lot to go faster than the other guy. For god sakes nobody has even seen a price on these yet. Innovation has always been good for racing, I say support innovators even if you don't buy this particular product. For the record I don't know anybody at Stoptech but I can;t stand it when people slam something new like this before much is known. Who said it was for the Honda weekend warriors anyway?
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Count me one of the few and the proud then. I'd love to drop 17bls+ in unsprung weight....PER WHEEL.
Count me one of the few and the proud then. I'd love to drop 17bls+ in unsprung weight....PER WHEEL.
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Nobody seems to be slamming something "new", just saying that the cost of these will be more it's worth to most people.
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Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. I can't see many H-T Autocross or Road Racers using these.
Nobody seems to be slamming something "new", just saying that the cost of these will be more it's worth to most people.
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Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. I can't see many H-T Autocross or Road Racers using these.
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show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not a slam? okeedokey
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Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nobody but the guy that posted them in the road racing/autocross forum on Honda-Tech. Wouldn't posting them here suggest something to you? But I do agree on your other points.
show kaaar and bling boys, well thats a different story.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not a slam? okeedokey
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Nobody, that's what we're saying. These are for race teams with unlimited budgets and open rules and track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nobody but the guy that posted them in the road racing/autocross forum on Honda-Tech. Wouldn't posting them here suggest something to you? But I do agree on your other points.
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You mean the guy who tracks his NSX? He fits into the "track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic." category.
You mean the guy who tracks his NSX? He fits into the "track junkies with lots of money to spend on their exotic." category.
In my book, that drastic a weight reduction in unsprung weight would be worth the entry price. This is not a 8k supercharger, 4k in HRE, 4k w/ Stoptechs on all four corners, or a 20k engine rebuild. This would be around 10k for something that is going to help acceleration, handling, and braking.
Plus it'll last longer to boot. Woot.
Plus it'll last longer to boot. Woot.



