Hey guys im going to be buying a car with this motor setup, and i was wondering about how much hp and tq you guys think this setup will make? The setup has already about 25,000 Miles on it....is that alot for this build? If i did a compression check, what kind of numbers should i look for, to see if the motor is healthy. And i will eventually tune the motor with crome or hondata to make alittle more power and make it more reliable. I test drove the car and it drives good. Motor is in an integra.

B18C1 Motor
Skunk 2 Intake Manifold
Skunk 2 Valves
Skunk 2 Valves Springs
Skunk 2 Retainers
Skunk 2 Cam Gears
Skunk 2 Cam Shaft
JE 11.1 Hi-Compression Piston
Crower Connecting Rod
Crower Crank Shaft
ACT clutch kit
B&M fluid regulator
DC Sports 4-1 Exhaust manifold
MSD SCI Ignition box
MSD ignition coil
RC 440 injectors
Hayame Catback exhuast
Catco high flow cat
Apex'i Vtec controller (blue version)
Chipped ECU

Let me know what you guys think about it...and what compression each cylinder should be. Oh and the vtec wasn't engaging because of the setting on the vtec controller got reset, does anyone know how setup the vtec from it agian...? And i know the DC sport header, is going to have to go to make some more power.

 

You will make 1million ******* horse power..... NEXT!!!

 

what do you guys think. I know the 440's seem alittle big for the setup. Maybe like 310's would be better. Im going to do a compression check to make sure the motor is healthy. When i do the compression check, what kind of numbers would tell me if the motor is healthy or not. And as far as tuning i want to go with crome.

 

Great answer ^^^ and thanks for your help!

 

about 190. Don't ask vague questions or you will get answers like that... we are not fortune tellers...

 

I think if you're gonna tune w/ crome you should just sell the vtec controller. Use that money towards your tuning session and dyno.

 

What's a B&M FLUID regulator anyway?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theyoungone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will make 1million ******* horse power..... NEXT!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theyoungone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">about 190. Don't ask vague questions or you will get answers like that... we are not fortune tellers...</TD></TR></TABLE>

to take up on that point DYNO the damn thing get a base and see were your at and let us all know at the end of the day dose not matter what we think the dyno never lies

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if you're gonna tune w/ crome you should just sell the vtec controller. Use that money towards your tuning session and dyno.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and for god sake do the above with the controller<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's a B&M FLUID regulator anyway? </TD></TR></TABLE>

guessing a fuel pressure regulator

as for the injectors seem a littl big as for what size you need


240cc = 180-190whp 310cc = 200-220whp 370cc = 220-280whp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YC_Xelic06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skunk 2 Cam Shaft
JE 11.1 Hi-Compression Piston
Crower Crank Shaft</TD></TR></TABLE>
Skunk 2 makes multiple camshafts for B VTEC motors, which cams you have may make some slight difference in how much power your engine makes.
JE makes different bore pistons-you could have 81mm pistons or you could have 87mm pistons. That may also have a negligible affect on your engines power numbers.
Finally, Crower makes cranks of varying strokes for B-series engines-the most common being 89mm, 92mm, and 95mm. There exists the remote possibility that your stroke may, perhaps, infinitesimally affect your numbers.

 

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There exists the remote possibility that your stroke may, perhaps, infinitesimally affect your numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well the stroke can effect your torque correct me if i am wrong?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the stroke can effect your torque correct me if i am wrong?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are not wrong. The stroke can have a dramatic effect on torque and horsepower. I was merely pointing out (with just a hint of sarcasm) that there was not enough information presented in the original post to make any kind of remotely close power guesstimate.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's a B&M FLUID regulator anyway? </TD></TR></TABLE>

ya it's a fuel pressure regulator gauge.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if you're gonna tune w/ crome you should just sell the vtec
controller. Use that money towards your tuning session and dyno.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya ill do that, becuase i won't have a need for it. Any idea how much the vtec controller sell for?

I know the injectors are big for the setup, the guy im buying it from wanted to go with itb's that's why he bought those injectors. But if i tune it with those 440's it should run fine right?? or should i sell em and get some 240's or 310's. If tuned will these 440's give me worse MPG then the 240's or 310's?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skunk 2 makes multiple camshafts for B VTEC motors, which cams you have may make some slight difference in how much power your engine makes.
JE makes different bore pistons-you could have 81mm pistons or you could have 87mm pistons. That may also have a negligible affect on your engines power numbers.
Finally, Crower makes cranks of varying strokes for B-series engines-the most common being 89mm, 92mm, and 95mm. There exists the remote possibility that your stroke may, perhaps, infinitesimally affect your numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The cams are SKUNK 2 Stage 2's. And for the pistons its the stock bore...just high compression. And the crank im pretty sure is whatever comes stock, just crower.

What should the compression numbers be...if the motor is healthy? What kind of numbers should i get that will tell me that the motor is good?

And is 25,000 miles alot for a Fully Built motor....Forged parts...? I guess as long as the compression test comes out good the pistons and everything should be good.

 

Im so sick and tired of seing threads like this. Follow the damn rules!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL MOTOR RULES & TOPIC INDEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4) E-Racing/Bench Racing/Guess my 1/4 or HP
There is no place for it here, it is not productive, frequently leads to arguments, and is generally pointless. Go find a dyno or a drag strip</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

440's are fine if you are running Hondata or Crome. You should make in the neighborhood of 125 torque and 190 whp.

 

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Quote, originally posted by ALL MOTOR RULES & TOPIC INDEX »
4) E-Racing/Bench Racing/Guess my 1/4 or HP
There is no place for it here, it is not productive, frequently leads to arguments, and is generally pointless. Go find a dyno or a drag strip

OK! I just wanted an idea of what i can expect when i go to the dyno, and ya i understand there's different kind's of dyno's, therefore different numbers...but i just wanted an idea.

But What should the compression numbers be...if the motor is healthy? What kind of numbers should i get that will tell me that the motor is good?

And is 25,000 miles alot for a Fully Built motor....Forged parts...? I guess as long as the compression test comes out good the pistons and everything should be good.

And any idea how much a Apex'i SAFC and a Apex'i VAFC sell for...there the (blue version's)??

 

Dont expect anything, dyno it and find out. Follow the rules and quit cluttering this forum with useless posts/threads

 

But What should the compression numbers be...if the motor is healthy? What kind of numbers should i get that will tell me that the motor is good?

And is 25,000 miles alot for a Fully Built motor....Forged parts...? I guess as long as the compression test comes out good the pistons and everything should be good.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You are not wrong. The stroke can have a dramatic effect on torque and horsepower. I was merely pointing out (with just a hint of sarcasm) that there was not enough information presented in the original post to make any kind of remotely close power guesstimate.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh i know i was not trying to flame on you or anything i was just curious sorry for any offence taken

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YC_Xelic06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But What should the compression numbers be...if the motor is healthy? What kind of numbers should i get that will tell me that the motor is good?

And is 25,000 miles alot for a Fully Built motor....Forged parts...? I guess as long as the compression test comes out good the pistons and everything should be good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahaha so you didnt build this motor. you are purchasing it from someone and you wanna know how much power it is going to make before you buy it.

which means you have no intention of dynoing it. you thought you could just ask us how much it will make so you have something to tell your friends at the ******* dairy queen hang out spot.

you are wasting our time. go bathe in gasoline and then juggle lit matches.

post results

 

Compression test should yeild anything over 210 across the board considering it's a healthy motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for any offence taken </TD></TR></TABLE>
None was-no worries

 

Another one!!! There NEEDS to be a solution here.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDEFTONESx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahahaha so you didnt build this motor. you are purchasing it from someone and you wanna know how much power it is going to make before you buy it.

which means you have no intention of dynoing it. you thought you could just ask us how much it will make so you have something to tell your friends at the ******* dairy queen hang out spot.

you are wasting our time. go bathe in gasoline and then juggle lit matches.

post results

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haha STFU! I am going to be dyno'ing it for max power and reliability. If i wasn't going to be dynoing it, i wouldn't be asking about the injectors being to big for the setup. And i just wanted to get an idea of how much power it will make before i dynoed it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow_ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Compression test should yeild anything over 210 across the board considering it's a healthy motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thanks for the reply, When i do the compression check...before i buy it, ill see if the numbers are around that. If not....im not going to buy it.

 

we have done a setup like that at our shop andit pulled at 197WHP with fuel pressure at 41psi and "lab" tuned ecu with 310cc injectors.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LABjunkies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we have done a setup like that at our shop andit pulled at 197WHP with fuel pressure at 41psi and "lab" tuned ecu with 310cc injectors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

dyno sheets?