ls/vtec setup question
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would the following setup wrok good and make decent power (at least 165 whp)?
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin
If you look around in here man, you will see that's a pretty common and solid setup. I would just make sure if I was using a DC header it was the JDM R version so it will have a 2.5 collector, you will be pretty satisfied I think. Just check out the dyno thread and you will see what others have made with very similar to let you guess until you get it built and on the dyno.
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my friend has p30's in his ls and he said that you need to shave them a bit. or what rods do you think i should use? and where could i get them?
-Kevin
-Kevin
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stewmaster-k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would the following setup wrok good and make decent power (at least 165 whp)?
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin
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Injectors a little big for that setup????
fidanza flywheel i would try to get a chrome molly one
blox intake manif (cheaper) or what about that aebs one?
cams blox, skunk2 toda too expensive lol
at the end of the day though there is no right and wrong your car your build your money just be happy with that you build.........!
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin
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Injectors a little big for that setup????
fidanza flywheel i would try to get a chrome molly one
blox intake manif (cheaper) or what about that aebs one?
cams blox, skunk2 toda too expensive lol
at the end of the day though there is no right and wrong your car your build your money just be happy with that you build.........!
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well the intake mani is coming with the head, so thats why im getting that.
the reason i like the fidanza flywheel is because it only weighs 8lbs. i used to have one.
but i sold it to my friend to put in his all motor ls setup, and he loves it.
the toda valvetrain is coming with the head, so im definately going to stick with that.
what size injectors should i go with? stock or 270cc?
the reason i like the fidanza flywheel is because it only weighs 8lbs. i used to have one.
but i sold it to my friend to put in his all motor ls setup, and he loves it.
the toda valvetrain is coming with the head, so im definately going to stick with that.
what size injectors should i go with? stock or 270cc?
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Injectors a little big for that setup????
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No they aren't.
Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?
310cc's is perfectly fine.
Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.
Injectors a little big for that setup????
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No they aren't.
Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?
310cc's is perfectly fine.
Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.
The best thing is to ask someone who is currently running that injector size or even larger on a similar setup. On a forum like this you will get lots of answers from people who have never ran what you are planning to run--they have only heard some information--the problem is--it might be right and it might be wrong. Listen to the guys who have actually done it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryanplayjoint »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that only applies when putting itr or ctr pistons on ls/b16/b17 rods
that only applies when putting itr or ctr pistons on ls/b16/b17 rods
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stewmaster-k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend has p30's in his ls and he said that you need to shave them a bit. or what rods do you think i should use? and where could i get them?
-Kevin</TD></TR></TABLE>
incorrect
p30's fit directly onto ls rods...shotpeen the ls rods and use arp rod bolts and your good...thats what im running in my setup.
-Kevin</TD></TR></TABLE>
incorrect
p30's fit directly onto ls rods...shotpeen the ls rods and use arp rod bolts and your good...thats what im running in my setup.
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alright. thanks everyone for the input and advice. im glad that the ALL MOTOR forum is one of the better ones on this site!
-Kevin
-Kevin
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No they aren't.
Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?
310cc's is perfectly fine.
Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner
No they aren't.
Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?
310cc's is perfectly fine.
Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryanplayjoint »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't spread misinformation. It's people like you that **** me off. If you don't know something as fact, don't spread it.
Don't spread misinformation. It's people like you that **** me off. If you don't know something as fact, don't spread it.
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guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner
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You are my arch nemesis.
guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner
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You are my arch nemesis.
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You are my arch nemesis.
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lucky me
tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?
also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session
You are my arch nemesis.
</TD></TR></TABLE>lucky me
tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?
also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by richard7968 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lucky me
tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?
also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session
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I've never had an idle issue...
Nor do I run iridiums...
Unless of course you aren't talking to me.
EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.
And I ditched the iridiums.
Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.
lucky me
tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?
also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session
</TD></TR></TABLE>I've never had an idle issue...

Nor do I run iridiums...
Unless of course you aren't talking to me.

EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.
And I ditched the iridiums.
Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've never had an idle issue...
Nor do I run iridiums...
Unless of course you aren't talking to me.
EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.
And I ditched the iridiums.
Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.
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i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?
I've never had an idle issue...

Nor do I run iridiums...
Unless of course you aren't talking to me.

EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.
And I ditched the iridiums.
Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?
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That's the problem.
That's the problem.
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i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've tried the 8's, yes. Negligible effects over the 7's.
And yes, I've tried every gap imaginable under the sun.
i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've tried the 8's, yes. Negligible effects over the 7's.
And yes, I've tried every gap imaginable under the sun.
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