Modified dash for navi monitor... step pics
I needed a place to mount an Alpine navigation display in my buddy's truck, so I decided to make a center dash piece. I took pics step by step to show how I did things...
Before shot... I will mount the LCD right in between the cup holders and the small change pocket below the climate controls... Can you see it??

Relocated the cup holders to have more room

Make a template using cardboard. It's quick and easy. see it yet?

Lay down ripped pieces of glass mat in place to make sure dash piece has proper fit in the truck.

Take out of truck, trim excess fiberglass, sand...

More fiberglass... Beef it up.

Build up material for sanding/shaping. Now can you see it??


Update
Not that much progress this weekend, but I sanded surfaces flat and completed the shape...




Once I'm done with bondo I will put a few layers of fiberglass cloth over entire piece. Cut out the hole for the monitor then smooth it out.
Final stage is to putty and wet sand, then I can texture spray unless I go with vinyl wrap. I'll post more pics when I get there.
Please throw me some feedback so I can improve my methods
Modified by turbosi03 at 7:01 PM 1/21/2007
Modified by turbosi03 at 9:04 PM 1/28/2007
Before shot... I will mount the LCD right in between the cup holders and the small change pocket below the climate controls... Can you see it??

Relocated the cup holders to have more room

Make a template using cardboard. It's quick and easy. see it yet?

Lay down ripped pieces of glass mat in place to make sure dash piece has proper fit in the truck.

Take out of truck, trim excess fiberglass, sand...

More fiberglass... Beef it up.

Build up material for sanding/shaping. Now can you see it??


Update
Not that much progress this weekend, but I sanded surfaces flat and completed the shape...




Once I'm done with bondo I will put a few layers of fiberglass cloth over entire piece. Cut out the hole for the monitor then smooth it out.
Final stage is to putty and wet sand, then I can texture spray unless I go with vinyl wrap. I'll post more pics when I get there.
Please throw me some feedback so I can improve my methods
Modified by turbosi03 at 7:01 PM 1/21/2007
Modified by turbosi03 at 9:04 PM 1/28/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by perseverance »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why didn't u just put the 2din where the radio's at? i've done that plenty of times. there might even be a dashkit for it but i've just shaved it open and and use speaker brackets along with cage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He wanted to keep stock radio, plus the Navi unit is just a monitor and controls, there's no radio or CD player with it.
I'll post more pics when I make progress
He wanted to keep stock radio, plus the Navi unit is just a monitor and controls, there's no radio or CD player with it.
I'll post more pics when I make progress
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The bondo should be the last thing to put on. Not the fiberglass.
Fiberglass does not adhere as well to bondo.
Bondo adheres to fiberglass better. Before putting bondo on the fiberglass you should be sure and sand of the top coating of resin to get a good holding surface for the bondo to stick to.
Use the bondo to get rid of the imperfections in the shape..Rough it in and use a high build primer to further rid imperfection in the sanding...Such as scratches.
Deep scratches and be filled with spot putty. Wet sand and prime again. Paint to your taste....
for the job. Would like to see the final product.
Fiberglass does not adhere as well to bondo.
Bondo adheres to fiberglass better. Before putting bondo on the fiberglass you should be sure and sand of the top coating of resin to get a good holding surface for the bondo to stick to.
Use the bondo to get rid of the imperfections in the shape..Rough it in and use a high build primer to further rid imperfection in the sanding...Such as scratches.
Deep scratches and be filled with spot putty. Wet sand and prime again. Paint to your taste....
for the job. Would like to see the final product.
We used the bondo to fill in the imperfections on the fiberglass matte....the matte was sanded before the put the bondo on to fill the imperfections.
We will then cover everything with fiberglass cloth as the final layer of fiber glass.
Dustin can elaborate more on this.
We will then cover everything with fiberglass cloth as the final layer of fiber glass.
Dustin can elaborate more on this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridEj8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We used the bondo to fill in the imperfections on the fiberglass matte....the matte was sanded before the put the bondo on to fill the imperfections.
We will then cover everything with fiberglass cloth as the final layer of fiber glass.
Dustin can elaborate more on this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wet sanded the matte before the bondo?
That makes no sense......You dont want a smoooth surface to try to stick bondo to.
I have worked with these materials for over 25 years.
We will then cover everything with fiberglass cloth as the final layer of fiber glass.
Dustin can elaborate more on this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wet sanded the matte before the bondo?
That makes no sense......You dont want a smoooth surface to try to stick bondo to.
I have worked with these materials for over 25 years.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridEj8 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we DID not wet sand the fiberglass matte...read it again. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok I read it too fast I guess....It is a ton easier to use the bondo for the "finish" work.
Ok I read it too fast I guess....It is a ton easier to use the bondo for the "finish" work.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swaytec360 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u should try fleece material instead of the matte it stretches well and makes better contours and it soakes up the resin and is easier to sand </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is true. But you will need alot more resin and it wont be as strong....But for an application as this....it would be A OK.
This is true. But you will need alot more resin and it wont be as strong....But for an application as this....it would be A OK.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by E.Honda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bondo should be the last thing to put on. Not the fiberglass.
Fiberglass does not adhere as well to bondo.
Bondo adheres to fiberglass better. Before putting bondo on the fiberglass you should be sure and sand of the top coating of resin to get a good holding surface for the bondo to stick to.
Use the bondo to get rid of the imperfections in the shape..Rough it in and use a high build primer to further rid imperfection in the sanding...Such as scratches.
Deep scratches and be filled with spot putty. Wet sand and prime again. Paint to your taste....
for the job. Would like to see the final product.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah hybridej8, this guy knows what he's talking about. Typically you only use bondo for filling inperfections after the shape is completed with fiberglass. However, I used fiberglass for basic structure, then completed the final shape with bondo... From here I can lay some glass for the final layer so bondo doesn't chip (I have a few tricks to help glass stick to bondo). Then smooth out with putty, wet sand etc...
Using E.honda's method I would need to spend much more time creating a mold thats close to what the final shape will be, then lay glass on, then bondo filling would be close to last step and would not take long. In my approach, cardboard was real quick and easy to get started. But then I spent a good amount of time building up material (bondo) to sand and shape the piece.
The end result will be the same
The only reason why I didn't follow the typical method is because I'm not sure how to create the "final shape" mold to lay glass on.
E.honda or anyone else, I'd love to hear suggestions for next time
Maybe my next project wont create so much bondo dust in my garage
I know my current method works though, just may not be as labor efficient. I'll be sure to post pics after my progress this weekend.
Fiberglass does not adhere as well to bondo.
Bondo adheres to fiberglass better. Before putting bondo on the fiberglass you should be sure and sand of the top coating of resin to get a good holding surface for the bondo to stick to.
Use the bondo to get rid of the imperfections in the shape..Rough it in and use a high build primer to further rid imperfection in the sanding...Such as scratches.
Deep scratches and be filled with spot putty. Wet sand and prime again. Paint to your taste....
for the job. Would like to see the final product.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah hybridej8, this guy knows what he's talking about. Typically you only use bondo for filling inperfections after the shape is completed with fiberglass. However, I used fiberglass for basic structure, then completed the final shape with bondo... From here I can lay some glass for the final layer so bondo doesn't chip (I have a few tricks to help glass stick to bondo). Then smooth out with putty, wet sand etc...
Using E.honda's method I would need to spend much more time creating a mold thats close to what the final shape will be, then lay glass on, then bondo filling would be close to last step and would not take long. In my approach, cardboard was real quick and easy to get started. But then I spent a good amount of time building up material (bondo) to sand and shape the piece.
The end result will be the same
The only reason why I didn't follow the typical method is because I'm not sure how to create the "final shape" mold to lay glass on.
E.honda or anyone else, I'd love to hear suggestions for next time
Maybe my next project wont create so much bondo dust in my garage
I know my current method works though, just may not be as labor efficient. I'll be sure to post pics after my progress this weekend.
Added some updated pics at top... fit the Alpine monitor we will be using, it's on the small side because it's an older Alpine navi he picked up for cheap. we plan to upgrade to a larger screen and just modify this dash later.
The shape is complete. Its in prime stage getting ready to wet sand then texture and paint hopefully this weekend.
The shape is complete. Its in prime stage getting ready to wet sand then texture and paint hopefully this weekend.
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