Ok i have a D16z6 motor with .020 over pistone port and polished head y8 head gasket and i need to know what cam to use
do you think i can run 13s in a 98 civic 2 door ??

NEED A D16Z BOTTOM END ASAP!!!!!!

 

what piston are you using? engine management?

we ran a 14.8 on a 98 EK coupe we had in 98-99
we did the OBD1 conversion,our Exospeed stage 2 Y8 cam, Edelbrock Cam Gear, TB upgrade, Edelbrock Intake Manifold, header, intake and exhaust and suspension work.

If you we did headwork on it, able to raise the rev limit to get more of the power after stock rev limit, high compression pistons, Im sure it could have gone into the 13s. This was a full interior EK coupe with nothing taken out. its possible with the right combination.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what piston are you using? engine management?

we ran a 14.8 on a 98 EK coupe we had in 98-99
we did the OBD1 conversion,our Exospeed stage 2 Y8 cam, Edelbrock Cam Gear, TB upgrade, Edelbrock Intake Manifold, header, intake and exhaust and suspension work.

If you we did headwork on it, able to raise the rev limit to get more of the power after stock rev limit, high compression pistons, Im sure it could have gone into the 13s. This was a full interior EK coupe with nothing taken out. its possible with the right combination.

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allmotor no! and thats coming from a die hard SOHC

stripped to the max with full tune and every advantage you can take + good driver high 13's

13's is harder then a lot of people might think

 

I dont think everyone that tries it will do it. but if you have a cherry motor and setup like I described above... I think its possible

I forgot to add that we ran that with 20x8x14 slicks.

If we had a headwork and internal work on that motor, I think it would have done a high 13 in that full interior EK coupe.

 

I used to own an all motor SOHC. It was built by Inline Racing. The motor made 160whp and 130wtq on 93 oct. tuned on CROME. The motor was a simple build with nothing special.

Motor:

D16a6 Block (STD. Bore)
Used ZC Pistons
Stock rods with ARP's
Z6 Head
Zex Cam
SuperTech Valvetrain
AEM Cam gear
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Ebay 4-2-1 Header
65 mm TB (Power TB)

90 CRX Si Transmission
Open Diff
Stock Pres. Plate
Used 6 Puck
Stock Axles

Car:
90 Crx DX (2100 lbs w/me)

Times:
Best Personal time-14.1 @ 99 2.1 60ft. (14in. Azenis) Open Diff

The car had so much more in it, but I gave up on it and went a different route. I think this motor could of went at least a mid to low 13....But this is in a 2100 lb car with me.....I don't know if this helps you but maybe it could. I suggest what ever you do...get an LSD and some Drags at least to get the most out of it, I wish I would of ........You should of seen the faces of all the peeps with twin cams I f***ed up with this car....PRICELESSSSSSSSS!

 

ya your 14.1@99mph, could be about 13.6/7 @99mph. I was running 13.6@99mph with only 140hp with the ol' CRX on 20x8x14 slicks.

Stock trans too, if I had the trans setup that I know now, it could have been a little faster with just some gearing changes.

 

What could of been........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85x89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used to own an all motor SOHC. It was built by Inline Racing. The motor made 160whp and 130wtq on 93 oct. tuned on CROME. The motor was a simple build with nothing special.

Motor:

D16a6 Block (STD. Bore)
Used ZC Pistons
Stock rods with ARP's
Z6 Head
Zex Cam
SuperTech Valvetrain
AEM Cam gear
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Ebay 4-2-1 Header
65 mm TB (Power TB)

90 CRX Si Transmission
Open Diff
Stock Pres. Plate
Used 6 Puck
Stock Axles

Car:
90 Crx DX (2100 lbs w/me)

Times:
Best Personal time-14.1 @ 99 2.1 60ft. (14in. Azenis) Open Diff

The car had so much more in it, but I gave up on it and went a different route. I think this motor could of went at least a mid to low 13....But this is in a 2100 lb car with me.....I don't know if this helps you but maybe it could. I suggest what ever you do...get an LSD and some Drags at least to get the most out of it, I wish I would of ........You should of seen the faces of all the peeps with twin cams I f***ed up with this car....PRICELESSSSSSSSS! </TD></TR></TABLE>

my car is 1980 LSD trans azenis tires 91 oct &lt;crome pro&gt;

 

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do you think i can run 13s in a 98 civic 2 door ?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

What ever you do, Don't let people tell you what you should and shouldn't do. If you want to go NA with a SOHC...then dammit, DO IT! and yes.......I think if you try hard enough then you'll hit 13's

 

See thats exactly what I'm talking about, Riggs your old setup was simple and hauled *** for what it had done to it. I know you didn'g spend a gang load of money on it either.

 

what is the max that u can bore a d16 out to?

 

any one?

 

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stock unsleeved block, I wouldnt go bigger than a 75.5mm

Sleeved block, we've done 77, 78 and 79mm. The most I'd do is 78mm for longevity. 79mm, you'll have harder time keeping the HG sealed.

 

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stock unsleeved block, I wouldnt go bigger than a 75.5mm

Sleeved block, we've done 77, 78 and 79mm. The most I'd do is 78mm for longevity. 79mm, you'll have harder time keeping the HG sealed.</TD></TR></TABLE>



78mm would put a stock d16y8 TWO layer head gasket<U></U> at a compression of around 10:4:1 and a displacement of about 1700cc

exospeed correct me if i am wrong

 

See sig for low allmotor SOHC power but quick ET, its all about the 60'

All done on pump and in 2000lbs w/ driver crx

New motor for 07 is stock sleeves bored to 76mm, with KMS blockgaurd

 

welcome to the all motor sohc club, i'm going with the all mighty crower stage 3.. is the largest cam for a sohc there is.. minus super custom stuff, etc.. but you need to know what your doing or have a good engine builder with a cam like this.

what comp are you gonna be running, what intake manifold ?

 

79 is too much for any kind of longevity. I had a 79mm a6 with JG sleeves--no material between the cyliners. It wound up cracking the aluminum surround between 1 and 2 cylinders. I wouldn't go more than 77.5 or 78.

The displacement was nice at 1763cc, but with the 13:1 compression it just didn't las long at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GarageAlchemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">welcome to the all motor sohc club, i'm going with the all mighty crower stage 3.. is the largest cam for a sohc there is.. minus super custom stuff, etc.. but you need to know what your doing or have a good engine builder with a cam like this.

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Crower Stage 3 is the biggest Vtec cam, you can get nontvec stuff is alot bigger

 

Actually, Go to Bisimoto's website--he has some cams made by Web (I believe) to his specs that are alot larger than any of the sohc vtec and non vtec cams I have seen.

He has an a6 cam with 280 @ 0.050"!!! And over 0.500" lift on the intake side. That is huge.

Crower 3 is a good cam. I run Gude Gorilla Hccs10 which is a great regrind--most aggresive sohc he sells. makes excellent power without having to rev over 8200-8300 rpm. 257 @ 0.050 intake, 219 @ 0.050" exhaust and 0.428 in, 0.421 ex lift. That is an a6 cam.

I also inquired about Colt cams. Colt is in Canada run by a guy who has ground cams for every motor you can think of. He told me if wanted something a bit more aggresive I would have to send my current cam in and he could grind one a little more aggressive--although I am not sure about that because you are limited in how aggressive you can regrind a stock cam--that is why Bisi's larger grinds are all hardwelds--material is actually welded on to make more meat for getting the profile you desire. He can make any profile you want. It was around $350 for a regrind and $600 + for hardwelding.

 

http://www.bisimoto.com/wst_page17.html

 

if u had the sleeved block bored to 78 how high would u be able to rev(assuming the rest of the engine could handle 10,000rpm)? what head gasket would i have to get?

 

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congratuations

60' AND the weight of the car both play a big role in your times + gearing!

 

interesting!!

 

does any one know?

 

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Cometic for the head gasket

RPM is dependant on camshaft profile, compression, and rod ratio. You have to have a cam that can breath at that RPM and enough compression to make up for the needed for the extra lift and duration that comes with a huge cam.