What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4?
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Re: What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4? (Hondaholik)
besides that? just cuz its vtec they decide to have a whole "new" chasis name?!
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Re: What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4? (Dynasty21)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dynasty21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">besides that? just cuz its vtec they decide to have a whole "new" chasis name?!</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes.
yes.
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Re: What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4? (Nataku)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The TYPE-R and GSR have completely different frame structures. The ITR is more ridged</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not that different, just welded better.
Not that different, just welded better.
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GSR = B18C1 Engine Code (Rated at 170 hp / at the crank)
Type- R = B18C5 Engine Code (Rated at 195 hp / at the crank)
Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar and the engine compression is higher NA than a GSR. So the Type-R has a little better internals and a bigger throttle body for more air, a little bigger bore size, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. The additional horsepower from the B18C5 is just some things that Honda improved over the existing B18C1 to make it a high compression NA motor that doesn't really need to be upgraded much because It comes out really well straight out of the factory. The Type-R also has a 5 lug nut design compared to only 4 on the GSR (only 97 Type-R model had 4 lugs) The Type- R also came in limited production and limited paint color codes. Phoenix Yellow, NightHawk Black Pearl, Championship White. Type- R also has Recaro seats in the front (black with red stitching). Also the shift boot, steering wheel,**** is the signature black with red stitching look. Hope that helped a little.
Type- R = B18C5 Engine Code (Rated at 195 hp / at the crank)
Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar and the engine compression is higher NA than a GSR. So the Type-R has a little better internals and a bigger throttle body for more air, a little bigger bore size, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. The additional horsepower from the B18C5 is just some things that Honda improved over the existing B18C1 to make it a high compression NA motor that doesn't really need to be upgraded much because It comes out really well straight out of the factory. The Type-R also has a 5 lug nut design compared to only 4 on the GSR (only 97 Type-R model had 4 lugs) The Type- R also came in limited production and limited paint color codes. Phoenix Yellow, NightHawk Black Pearl, Championship White. Type- R also has Recaro seats in the front (black with red stitching). Also the shift boot, steering wheel,**** is the signature black with red stitching look. Hope that helped a little.
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Re: (SimplyB18C1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SimplyB18C1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GSR = B18C1 Engine Code (Rated at 170 hp / at the crank)
Type- R = B18C5 Engine Code (Rated at 195 hp / at the crank)
Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar and the engine compression is higher NA than a GSR. So the Type-R has a little better internals and a bigger throttle body for more air, a little bigger bore size, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. The additional horsepower from the B18C5 is just some things that Honda improved over the existing B18C1 to make it a high compression NA motor that doesn't really need to be upgraded much because It comes out really well straight out of the factory. The Type-R also has a 5 lug nut design compared to only 4 on the GSR (only 97 Type-R model had 4 lugs) The Type- R also came in limited production and limited paint color codes. Phoenix Yellow, NightHawk Black Pearl, Championship White. Type- R also has Recaro seats in the front (black with red stitching). Also the shift boot, steering wheel,**** is the signature black with red stitching look. Hope that helped a little. </TD></TR></TABLE>
correction: JDM 1996 ITR had 4 lugs, all USDM ITR's and 97-up JDM ITR's had 5-lug.
Yeah people have often wondered why the GS-R and ITR have the same chassis code, when in fact their chassis are quite different. Whereas the RS/LS/GS has the exact same chassis as the GS-R (just different engine) and yet it is called DC4 instead of DC2.
And then even more odd is the fact that the 4th gen Integra/RSX is still called a DC chassis, but just with a different number (DC5). That makes no sense at all.
Type- R = B18C5 Engine Code (Rated at 195 hp / at the crank)
Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar and the engine compression is higher NA than a GSR. So the Type-R has a little better internals and a bigger throttle body for more air, a little bigger bore size, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. The additional horsepower from the B18C5 is just some things that Honda improved over the existing B18C1 to make it a high compression NA motor that doesn't really need to be upgraded much because It comes out really well straight out of the factory. The Type-R also has a 5 lug nut design compared to only 4 on the GSR (only 97 Type-R model had 4 lugs) The Type- R also came in limited production and limited paint color codes. Phoenix Yellow, NightHawk Black Pearl, Championship White. Type- R also has Recaro seats in the front (black with red stitching). Also the shift boot, steering wheel,**** is the signature black with red stitching look. Hope that helped a little. </TD></TR></TABLE>
correction: JDM 1996 ITR had 4 lugs, all USDM ITR's and 97-up JDM ITR's had 5-lug.
Yeah people have often wondered why the GS-R and ITR have the same chassis code, when in fact their chassis are quite different. Whereas the RS/LS/GS has the exact same chassis as the GS-R (just different engine) and yet it is called DC4 instead of DC2.
And then even more odd is the fact that the 4th gen Integra/RSX is still called a DC chassis, but just with a different number (DC5). That makes no sense at all.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
correction: JDM 1996 ITR had 4 lugs, all USDM ITR's and 97-up JDM ITR's had 5-lug.
Yeah people have often wondered why the GS-R and ITR have the same chassis code, when in fact their chassis are quite different. Whereas the RS/LS/GS has the exact same chassis as the GS-R (just different engine) and yet it is called DC4 instead of DC2.
And then even more odd is the fact that the 4th gen Integra/RSX is still called a DC chassis, but just with a different number (DC5). That makes no sense at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yay honda for confusing the hell out of people
correction: JDM 1996 ITR had 4 lugs, all USDM ITR's and 97-up JDM ITR's had 5-lug.
Yeah people have often wondered why the GS-R and ITR have the same chassis code, when in fact their chassis are quite different. Whereas the RS/LS/GS has the exact same chassis as the GS-R (just different engine) and yet it is called DC4 instead of DC2.
And then even more odd is the fact that the 4th gen Integra/RSX is still called a DC chassis, but just with a different number (DC5). That makes no sense at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yay honda for confusing the hell out of people
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Re: What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4? (BlueIntegraBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not that different, just welded better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, Not just welds... Look at diagram below.
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Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
More than just a rear strut bar. Also Look Below.
Not that different, just welded better.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, Not just welds... Look at diagram below.
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Type-R is more rigid and less chassis flex because it has an additional rear strut bar</TD></TR></TABLE>
More than just a rear strut bar. Also Look Below.
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Re: What is the difference from a dc2 and dc4? (Nataku)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, Not just welds... Look at diagram below.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, not just welds, but also not a "completely different frame structure". Also note that the GS-R'S chassis is no different than other Integra models -- only the ITR is unique.
True, not just welds, but also not a "completely different frame structure". Also note that the GS-R'S chassis is no different than other Integra models -- only the ITR is unique.
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Re: (IndeyAttack)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IndeyAttack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">although the gsr does come with better suspension from the factory.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If by better suspension you mean different sway bars, then yes.
If by better suspension you mean different sway bars, then yes.
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Re: (SimplyB18C1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SimplyB18C1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the Type-R has a little bigger bore size, </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im sorry, BAHWHWHA nothing i read that you type i will ever take as being credible information again!!
Im sorry, BAHWHWHA nothing i read that you type i will ever take as being credible information again!!
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Re: (Padawan)
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If by better suspension you mean different sway bars, then yes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
and strut bar
If by better suspension you mean different sway bars, then yes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
and strut bar
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