How stiff is 1,000lbs rear spring??
I'm looking for a nice drag/street coilover.. I know the omni drags are 12k front and 18k rear.. The omni sport are 12k front and 10k rear..


These are the skunk2 drag coilovers they are 558lbs front and 1,000lbs rears how do they compare to the omni's listed above i can get the coilovers for 257 shipped??
What would the rating of those be if they we rated the same way in k's sorry for being a dummy just don't no much about suspension hopefully somebody can help out..

Was thinking about buying these and getting some kyb agx's off ebay for 300..

looking for something that is bareable for weekend cruising only and track days..

 

you will need to have your shocks revalved to handle that spring rate. Look into the koni spss3 shocks, $250each, they can handle those springs.

Also, 1000# rear on a civic is borderline dangerous on the street. You WILL be catching air on uneven pavement and expansion strips on the highway. Also, it will TOTALLY change the handling characteristics of your car and you can get yourself into trouble really easily.

 

how does that spring rate compare to these??

omni drag 12k front- 18k rear
omni sport 12k front- 10k rear

 

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Stiff enough to feel like don't really have suspension.


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looking for something that is bearable for weekend cruising only and track days..

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It all depends what you call "bearable"...

 

well, 10K is about 500lbs/in and 8K is about 400lbs/in .... so 18K rear would be around 900lbs/in.

If you want a daily driver / streetable car, why would you even CONSIDER drag-rated coilovers?

Get yourself some Omni Sports if you're dedicated to that brand.

 

car is'nt my daily, i drive the car on some weekends and to the track..

damn so 1,000lbs rears are stiffer then the omni 18k drags wow my boy has those and they'll send you thru the roof over bumps..

 

i don't have a particular favorite brand, i just got a older setup on my car and it just wants to bottom out on my tires alot i guess it is to soft and the car is'nt dumped..

honestly i'm looking at the k-sport adjustable full coilover for 560 shipped
the skunk 2 full coilover for 525 shipped

both of those are on blowout

then i seen the skunk2 drags and regular coilovers for 257 shipped on blowout and can get some kyb agx's on ebay for 300 shipped..

i'm scared of the full coilover having a strut issue and being a big problem to get it fixed..

 

If you talk to BodyKitsNW (a sponsor here) about K-Sports, I think he may be able to get non-shelf springrates. For track use, you could do something like 13KF/9KR.

 

so you want a stiff front has well i thought it was just the rear you wanted stiff??

will the stiffer setup stop my car from wanting to come down on my tires??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Samuels &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you want a stiff front has well i thought it was just the rear you wanted stiff??

will the stiffer setup stop my car from wanting to come down on my tires??</TD></TR></TABLE>

You want more stiffness where there is more weight. Look at spring rates for just about any spring set for a civic ... the front is always heftier.

 

i run 1000# springs, and , well, there is no ride quality.... not exactly streetable if that is what you are going for.

 

I had drag coilovers on my old eg i drove to the track and back i swear i needed an ice pack for my ***** not for street driving

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rodney &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run 1000# springs, and , well, there is no ride quality.... not exactly streetable if that is what you are going for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You run 1000#'s on your autoX car?

What kind of tires do you have? That doesn't slide too easily?

 

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You run 1000#'s on your autoX car?

What kind of tires do you have? That doesn't slide too easily?</TD></TR></TABLE>

he has an SM car, I think he has v710's, with some redicilous width.

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You want more stiffness where there is more weight. Look at spring rates for just about any spring set for a civic ... the front is always heftier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

on a drag car (and depending on preference, track and ax too) you want the stiffer springs in the rear to prevent weight transfer. Raising the rear of the car will affect the crossweights and make the rear heavier as well.

 

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on a drag car (and depending on preference, track and ax too) you want the stiffer springs in the rear to prevent weight transfer. Raising the rear of the car will affect the crossweights and make the rear heavier as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, forgot about that. I've never set my car up to drag .... I'm an auto-x man myself.

 

Can we say Kidney replacement?

 

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incorrect. you can tune a cars handling by changing spring rate bias. it is very effective. i have gone through many spring rates, and now i am a couple hundred lbs more out back then in the front. this is combined with a 32mm rear bar.

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What kind of tires do you have? That doesn't slide too easily?</TD></TR></TABLE>

last years setup was 15x9 w/ 225/45-15 front & 15x7 w 205/50-15 rear hoosiers. i am in the process of fitting 15x11 w/ 275's up front.

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when i first installed them, after moving it around i was like "this is not bad..." after driving it through pits, i felt every crease in the road... BANG SLAM BOOM! lol doesn;t matter, because the car handles phenominally..

 

oops.. double post

 

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last years setup was 15x9 w/ 225/45-15 front & 15x7 w 205/50-15 rear hoosiers. i am in the process of fitting 15x11 w/ 275's up front.

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:-\ Ouch.

 

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incorrect. you can tune a cars handling by changing spring rate bias. it is very effective. i have gone through many spring rates, and now i am a couple hundred lbs more out back then in the front. this is combined with a 32mm rear bar.
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My setup for autox is:
4-way KYB Coilovers w/ Ground Control Springs 700.250.0300
and when I put the shocks on setting 4 in the rear I can get oversteer easily just on the OEM rear sway bar.
I think your girlfriend/wife would hate riding in your car though. Mine just puts up with it I know LOL