Would anyone trust ebay piping at low boost about 6 or 7 and should be about 2" - 2.5 diameter...I also plan to reinforce the connectors with a type of adhesive to help with holding the pressure any information will be good...searched already i have come to believe IC piping is not "that big" of a deal...any comments, suggestions, remarks, negatively conatated backlashes...anything thanks

 

it will be fine. 2" is a little small, I prefer 2.25-2.5 diameter piping myself.

Some people use hairspray on the ends of the piping to help the couplings hold on better. That aquanet or whatever the hell its call is most popular.

others, like myself, don't buy shitty worm clamps and get good t-bolt clamps that hold. But for a low boost setup, worm clamps will be fine.

You can also roll the edges of the pipes so they have a lip, this helps then not to pop off.

 

I'm sure the pipes will work fine, there just pipes. The fitment on the other hand probably sucks.

 

thanks guys...but do you know a place where i can get either the piping for it or the t-bolt clamps for cheap or even used...thanks

 

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You can also roll the edges of the pipes so they have a lip, this helps then not to pop off.</TD></TR></TABLE>


how do you go about rolling the edges? a special tool?

 

I still dont see how people always seem to need a rolled pipe
I have run 30+ psi on normal straight cut with good 4 ply couplers and 3/4" t bolt clamps and never had a blow off issue,
Just make sure fitment is good and there should be no problems

-James

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fabrications &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still dont see how people always seem to need a rolled pipe
I have run 30+ psi on normal straight cut with good 4 ply couplers and 3/4" t bolt clamps and never had a blow off issue,
Just make sure fitment is good and there should be no problems

-James</TD></TR></TABLE>

WERD...

i have problems gettin mine OFF after i take off the clamps...
you get what you pay for

I dont use rolled ends, and i dont use anything to make them stick better.. just get the good stuff

 

exactly those stinkin couplers wont let go
The cost for good high quality couplers and clamps is like 1$ extra each it isnt that expensive and the assurance that they wont inflate and pop like bollons is great

-James

 

i could crush a pipe with my couplers

 

Alot of people on the LS-T thread are using 2" hotside, 2.5" coldside. I don't really understand the physics of that, since cold air takes up less volume than hot air, but that's what I'm running. Maybe its because you want to get air from the turbo to the intercooler as fast as possible, but coming into the tb, you want low restriction, so as much volume as possible can flow.

Anyway, I ordered a bunch of aluminum bends and had them TIG welded together. Even though I also used part of my cold air intake, I ended up spending alot of money that way. I still had a blowout on the highway about 1/2 hour after getting tuned. Yes it happened to be a Home Depot rubber coupler with a worm drive clamp, but it has more to with the fact that the pipe edge was not bead rolled.

You should probably use the hi-temp silicone couplers at least from the turbo to the intercooler. I've heard of people melting the home depot stuff on the dyno. Probably doesn't matter much on the rest of the system, on low boost. The worm drive clamps are supposed to be good up to 15 psi, if you have bead rolled edges. If you want to use t-bolt clamps and the good silicone couplers all around for peace of mind, then do it.

If I had it to do over again, I would probably get the HKS set for 94+ integra on ebay for 160 shipped. Doesn't come with any couplers or clamps, but all the edges are bead rolled.

I've heard there is a machine that can make the rolled edges. I'm currently just having a bead welded on the edge of the pipe where the blowout happened.

 

check out this piping kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

 

as others also said, I don't use any of the trick methods I posted.

I run 24psi daily with t-bolt and 3-4 ply couplings. No rolled edges, hairspray or anything. I've never had one pop off.

Just get good couplings and t-bolt clamps. The home depot stuff sucks and you will just end up buying the good stuff in the long run after the HD stuff fails.

 

I have ebay IC piping. Fittament was pretty good (had to cut a little bit) but for the price you can't go wrong.

 

This is the main thing that's stressing me out about my turbo project. I can't decide if I want to risk buying those ebay pipes or having a shop customize my ic pipes. I really don't want to spend too much money on this factor of my project either.

Edit: Is it common for folks to run their original intake pipe as part of their ic piping? Any downside in doing this?

As of right now I can't decide what to do.

 

To give you an idea of the price for a custom job
I do 2.5" aluminum polished with all 4 ply couplers and 3/4" t bolt clamps custom charge pipes for civic/integra/ef's for $400 installed

That will give you an idea of what it might cost for a local shop to do it for you

-James

 

i see nothing wrong with ebay pipes. you might have to cut them but i think thats better than spending 300 bucks on a pipe kit that might not fit anyway. as for the clamps tho, i havn't installed mine yet so i dont' know how they hold up. i might try and find some t-bolt clamps if the other ones fail. but for low boost they should be ok right?

 

you should only go slightly larger than your compressors outlet...so you get the best charge velocity..as for the adhesive, using good clamps eliminates the need for it and they will be easier to get off..

 

I use worm clamps and heavy duty truck radiator hose for couplers. I've never had 1 pipe blow off even at 18psi for 3 years. I actually prefer the reinforced radiator hose over silicone, it seems to stick better and its much cheaper.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fabrications &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To give you an idea of the price for a custom job
I do 2.5" aluminum polished with all 4 ply couplers and 3/4" t bolt clamps custom charge pipes for civic/integra/ef's for $400 installed

That will give you an idea of what it might cost for a local shop to do it for you

-James</TD></TR></TABLE>
You see....I'm not trying to go into a shop and hear that. I'm not cheap when it comes to my car. All of my turbo parts are high quality, but I can't see myself forking up around $400 for piping. Nope! I'll shop around to see their prices vs yours.

Most likely will be buying the piping off of ebay, and replacing the provided clamps for t-bolt clamps.

 

its not just the clamps

the silicone couplers that comes with them kits is junk

 

True indeed...I'll just replace all those as well.

 

awesome thanks for all the help...but if the clamps and couplers are junk...where are the good ones located...

 

turbohoses.com if you got a couple hundred dollars to spend on couplers and clamps...

 

anyone else know where to go for a little lower price range...thanks

 

Cheap T-bolt resource, but I've never personally bought anything from them http://trucknbusclamps.safesho...m?595