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Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :)
If this is in the Wrong Area. *Please Delete.* Wasnt sure where to Post this.
I was wondering if anyone had information about the Spoon Block Brace/Blade. Im trying to Find as much Information as Possible and where these can be Purchased. Are kinda like the Z10 Block Girdle? Well heres a Video of what Im talking about. Also what kinda of Oil Pan is used in the Video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8T9KFgjWc
Thanks for everyones Help
~Chris
I was wondering if anyone had information about the Spoon Block Brace/Blade. Im trying to Find as much Information as Possible and where these can be Purchased. Are kinda like the Z10 Block Girdle? Well heres a Video of what Im talking about. Also what kinda of Oil Pan is used in the Video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8T9KFgjWc
Thanks for everyones Help
~Chris
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (4NLINE UNLIMITED)
never seen that before........but im sure its way over priced like every other spoon product. 
you want a nice crank girdle look into Function7 or ERL 5 main block girldes.
you want a nice crank girdle look into Function7 or ERL 5 main block girldes.
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i didnt see any 11,000rpm action 
looks like a nice part assuming the cost is not astronomical.
looks like a nice part assuming the cost is not astronomical.
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (non-VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">never seen that before........but im sure its way over priced like every other spoon product.
you want a nice crank girdle look into Function7 or ERL 5 main block girldes. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are these pretty much the Same Design or able to withstand the Teen RPMs?
you want a nice crank girdle look into Function7 or ERL 5 main block girldes.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Are these pretty much the Same Design or able to withstand the Teen RPMs?
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there are several post about this product. but if i remember correct is it discountinued. but if you pay like 3000$ you would get one.
im waiting on a ERL 5 cap main girdle, i guess that would hold the ls block together
im waiting on a ERL 5 cap main girdle, i guess that would hold the ls block together
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (4NLINE UNLIMITED)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4NLINE UNLIMITED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If this is in the Wrong Area. *Please Delete.* Wasnt sure where to Post this.
I was wondering if anyone had information about the Spoon Block Brace/Blade. Im trying to Find as much Information as Possible and where these can be Purchased. Are kinda like the Z10 Block Girdle? Well heres a Video of what Im talking about. Also what kinda of Oil Pan is used in the Video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8T9KFgjWc
Thanks for everyones Help
~Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had the honor of meeting Mr Ichishima-san back in 99 and he proudly showed me the girdle prototype (hence the blueing on the prototype part)
the final price was about $3k for the complete girdle. It is no longer in production.
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Modified by Function7 at 11:04 AM 1/9/2007
Modified by Function7 at 1:03 PM 1/11/2007
I was wondering if anyone had information about the Spoon Block Brace/Blade. Im trying to Find as much Information as Possible and where these can be Purchased. Are kinda like the Z10 Block Girdle? Well heres a Video of what Im talking about. Also what kinda of Oil Pan is used in the Video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl8T9KFgjWc
Thanks for everyones Help
~Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>
I had the honor of meeting Mr Ichishima-san back in 99 and he proudly showed me the girdle prototype (hence the blueing on the prototype part)
the final price was about $3k for the complete girdle. It is no longer in production.
-AT
Modified by Function7 at 11:04 AM 1/9/2007
Modified by Function7 at 1:03 PM 1/11/2007
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (ITRnorway)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITRnorway »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are several post about this product. but if i remember correct is it discountinued. but if you pay like 3000$ you would get one.
im waiting on a ERL 5 cap main girdle, i guess that would hold the ls block together</TD></TR></TABLE>
We designed our girdles based on a 13k rev limit, and our girdles have been used on engines that go to 11k. All our girdles are individually customized so the specifications do vary a little depending on the build of the engine.
The practical powerband of B-series engines typically maxes out a 9200-9600 rpm, but it's nice to have that little extra headroom when you're driving.
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im waiting on a ERL 5 cap main girdle, i guess that would hold the ls block together</TD></TR></TABLE>
We designed our girdles based on a 13k rev limit, and our girdles have been used on engines that go to 11k. All our girdles are individually customized so the specifications do vary a little depending on the build of the engine.
The practical powerband of B-series engines typically maxes out a 9200-9600 rpm, but it's nice to have that little extra headroom when you're driving.
-AT
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (Function7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We designed our girdles based on a 13k rev limit, and our girdles have been used on engines that go to 11k. All our girdles are individually customized so the specifications do vary a little depending on the build of the engine.
The practical powerband of B-series engines typically maxes out a 9200-9600 rpm, but it's nice to have that little extra headroom when you're driving.
-AT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sweet Thank You for the Info So there any other Special Parts I have to Buy inorder for this to Work w/ my 2.0L B16B? Also do you guys carry Cranks? Thanks Again !!!
~Chris
The practical powerband of B-series engines typically maxes out a 9200-9600 rpm, but it's nice to have that little extra headroom when you're driving.
-AT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sweet Thank You for the Info
So there any other Special Parts I have to Buy inorder for this to Work w/ my 2.0L B16B? Also do you guys carry Cranks? Thanks Again !!!~Chris
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4NLINE UNLIMITED »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sweet Thank You for the Info So there any other Special Parts I have to Buy inorder for this to Work w/ my 2.0L B16B? Also do you guys carry Cranks? Thanks Again !!!
~Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>
We carry only what we make, so we don't carry cranks.
You'll need at least 4 more pieces of the longer main crank cap bolts (the B16B(and B18C) has 6 long and 4 short - you'll need all 10 long ones. If you opt for ARP main bolts, order them for a H22A prelude instead of a B16B.
We don't advise going to a full 2L stroke, although we've made some for 2L B18C (same as your B16B plans) engines that are currently being run in the UK.
Get a 1.8L crank (I think I have a spare one somewhere if you're interested) and change your pistons out to a lower compression pistons like the ITR one (standard B16B pistons will result in 13.3:1 CR with a 1.8L crank).
Prepare to balance the valvetrain if you intend to hit 10k on a regular basis. IIRC We took out 1.2 kg off the standard rocker arms on our test engine (all 24 pieces) and balanced them to within 0.1g. Swap out to stiffer valve springs and titanium retainers.
That's the bare minimum that you'll need to do to build a 11k engine and have it reliable enough to last at least 3 years of racing.
-AT
Modified by Function7 at 11:50 AM 1/10/2007
Sweet Thank You for the Info
So there any other Special Parts I have to Buy inorder for this to Work w/ my 2.0L B16B? Also do you guys carry Cranks? Thanks Again !!!~Chris</TD></TR></TABLE>
We carry only what we make, so we don't carry cranks.
You'll need at least 4 more pieces of the longer main crank cap bolts (the B16B(and B18C) has 6 long and 4 short - you'll need all 10 long ones. If you opt for ARP main bolts, order them for a H22A prelude instead of a B16B.
We don't advise going to a full 2L stroke, although we've made some for 2L B18C (same as your B16B plans) engines that are currently being run in the UK.
Get a 1.8L crank (I think I have a spare one somewhere if you're interested) and change your pistons out to a lower compression pistons like the ITR one (standard B16B pistons will result in 13.3:1 CR with a 1.8L crank).
Prepare to balance the valvetrain if you intend to hit 10k on a regular basis. IIRC We took out 1.2 kg off the standard rocker arms on our test engine (all 24 pieces) and balanced them to within 0.1g. Swap out to stiffer valve springs and titanium retainers.
That's the bare minimum that you'll need to do to build a 11k engine and have it reliable enough to last at least 3 years of racing.
-AT
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Re: Questions Reguarding Spoon Products | Please Click and Read :) (Function7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We carry only what we make, so we don't carry cranks.
You'll need at least 4 more pieces of the longer main crank cap bolts (the B16B(and B18C) has 6 long and 4 short - you'll need all 10 long ones. If you opt for ARP main bolts, order them for a H22A prelude instead of a B16B.
We don't advise going to a full 2L stroke, although we've made some for 2L B18C (same as your B16B plans) engines that are currently being run in the UK.
Get a 1.8L crank (I think I have a spare one somewhere if you're interested) and change your pistons out to a lower compression pistons like the ITR one (standard B16B pistons will result in 13.3:1 CR with a 1.8L crank).
Prepare to balance the valvetrain if you intend to hit 10k on a regular basis. IIRC We took out 1.2 kg off the standard rocker arms on our test engine (all 24 pieces) and balanced them to within 0.1g. Swap out to stiffer valve springs and titanium retainers.
That's the bare minimum that you'll need to do to build a 11k engine and have it reliable enough to last at least 3 years of racing.
-AT</TD></TR></TABLE>
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You'll need at least 4 more pieces of the longer main crank cap bolts (the B16B(and B18C) has 6 long and 4 short - you'll need all 10 long ones. If you opt for ARP main bolts, order them for a H22A prelude instead of a B16B.
We don't advise going to a full 2L stroke, although we've made some for 2L B18C (same as your B16B plans) engines that are currently being run in the UK.
Get a 1.8L crank (I think I have a spare one somewhere if you're interested) and change your pistons out to a lower compression pistons like the ITR one (standard B16B pistons will result in 13.3:1 CR with a 1.8L crank).
Prepare to balance the valvetrain if you intend to hit 10k on a regular basis. IIRC We took out 1.2 kg off the standard rocker arms on our test engine (all 24 pieces) and balanced them to within 0.1g. Swap out to stiffer valve springs and titanium retainers.
That's the bare minimum that you'll need to do to build a 11k engine and have it reliable enough to last at least 3 years of racing.
-AT</TD></TR></TABLE>
PM'd w/ info on my Current Project
Thanks Chris
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