I know the Type-R's perfection is N/A. Most people say they would just do an all motor set up. I love the car inside and out, but to me it just lacks a little power to put you in your seat. Again yes the car wasn't made for power or straight line racing but rather the track. Overall I love everything about the R other than the power issue thats why id rather boost it and be happy as opposed to buying another car with more power but lacking in so many other areas. That is my thinking and why I plan on boosting. So much for keeping it stock

With that said, im looking to boost on stock internals (give it a few months ill be building this motor haha). I wanna keep it simple so that if one day i wanna go back to stock I can. For all you boosted ITR owners, what are the downfalls of a boosted R besides the greater chance of wear and tear and breaking parts. What setup would you suggest for a stock internal setup. Im guessing Ill be at 4-8 PSI, and what kind of numbers am I looking at? Key here is RELIABILITY making good power. What can I expect to pay once its all said and done?

I did my searching, and yes got alot of info but alot has changed over the past 5 years thats why im posting. I wanna hear it directly from the boosted folks! *Zips up flame suit*

 

pretty much hit the nail on the head with the downfalls.

as far as setups go, id get a ramhorn manifold from AFI(turbojesse) and his piping kit, and FMIC. He has very competitive prices and is a nice guy.

Just keep it simple and itll be fun. Id go with a GT series turbo if you wanna spend the cash. Id suggest a 3071r, and some people are going to argue with me since you can get a 3076, and a 3040r, but the 3071 is the smaller, will support right at 500whp, and will outspool the others significantly according to Jdogg, whos opinion I respect a bit since he tunes many boosted cars.

3" dp, 3" exhaust, crome, 44mm wg just in case, whatever BOV that you like, and you can get 650 saturated injectors from rc, so no need for a resistor box.

 

A good friend of mines recently had his ITR turbo-ed and used two places to get started

1. He used import builders build up is motor to handle the turbo, http://www.importbuilders.com/
2. He went with a custom turbo, of course it was not crab legal. Contact Phil at SpoolinPerformance at Red Zone Performance in Fremont, CA. He make some crazy custom turbo’s! http://www.redzoneperformance.com/

I wish you stay NA, but best of luck and I hope this helps!

 

JRSC FTW...


Pretty much bolt on fun. Low boost is 220+WHP and high boost is up to (but not limited to) 275whp.

It's enough power for a fwd vehicle. Plan on an increased budget for tires.

 

I dont know where to begin so Ill just start rambling. There are 1000 different ways to do it. You can go the "right" way, you can do the cheap way.

The "right" way is expensive as it usually involves fully building the motor, and purchasing some sort of turbo kit that has already been tested, fitted, and comes with everything you need.

The cheap way is more difficult. Its usually untested, unfitted, harder to get all the right components together, etc.

Personally, I was going to do the cheaper way, but still build my motor. I searched and researched endlessly for weeks. When all was said and done I could have saved 1000-2000 just in parts. However a lot of it I was unsure if it was going to fit right (downpipes, fittings, lines, manifolds, clamps/vbands, piping, etc), and I didnt have all the tools needed to make appropriate corrections, and I would have had to pay someone to make it right, essentially negating the money I had saved going the cheaper route. Plus I was on a tight deadline.

Since you plan to keep the motor stock, I would personally get a solid turbo setup, such as a FR stage 1 or something along those lines, rather than a homemade or custom setup (especially since its your first setup). I dont know if I would go as big as a GT30 series, as you may be too tempted to push the limits on the stock internals. Once you are boosted, its easy to get greedy. If you plan to piece the kit together yourself, do plenty of research as there are lots of areas you can save money, but sometimes at the expense of fitment and quality. There are lots of people in the FI and Sponsor forums that sell components and if you buy multiple parts from them they will give you an even better deal.

Reliability-wise, Id say if you have a solid motor already (good compression, no leakage, valve seals/seats are good), and a quality turbo setup, you will be fine as long as you have it TUNED properly and dont push your luck. Speak to a local tuner, find out what options you have. You can do full out standalone systems, or simple systems like chipped OBD1 OEM ECUs with Crome, Neptune, etc. Depends on the tuner and how much you want to spend. You will want to have plenty of gauges to monitor vitals like oil pressure/temp, water temp, a/f, boost, etc. And of course you will need all supporting mods like clutches, maybe axles, radiator depending on which manifold you use, etc.

Or of course you could always go with a JRSC as Im sure those are fun as well. Depends how much power you really want to make.

Ive had decent luck with my setup so far, but some issues have come up. I overheat in the summer (probably due to my insufficient fan setup), my distributor took a crap (twice), I broke an axle, my trans bearings have taken a beating, and other small things like slight oil leaks at my fittings/lines. All of that is stuff Im still working to correct.


Modified by RTW DC2R at 7:28 PM 1/6/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dsav4shawn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRSC FTW...


Pretty much bolt on fun. Low boost is 220+WHP and high boost is up to (but not limited to) 275whp.

It's enough power for a fwd vehicle. Plan on an increased budget for tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

from my JRSC experience, i would say that the JRSC is fun and adds some power, but it is a headache, the charger itself is a piece of **** and eventually needs rebuilds and i would say NA or turbo

i wont do another JRSC on my next ITR unless they release a new version that isnt so limiting and isnt such a pain in the ****

the pulley systems suck!

 

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from my JRSC experience, i would say that the JRSC is fun and adds some power, but it is a headache, the charger itself is a piece of **** and eventually needs rebuilds and i would say NA or turbo

i wont do another JRSC on my next ITR unless they release a new version that isnt so limiting and isnt such a pain in the ****

the pulley systems suck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you seen Jackson Racing lately. It's not your mothers' supercharger anymore. No longer are they roots... Rotrex sc ftw.

Only problem is you'd have to wait till they actually make one for the b18c5 application. But it's coming I'm sure.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from my JRSC experience, i would say that the JRSC is fun and adds some power, but it is a headache, the charger itself is a piece of **** and eventually needs rebuilds and i would say NA or turbo

i wont do another JRSC on my next ITR unless they release a new version that isnt so limiting and isnt such a pain in the ****

the pulley systems suck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

*puts on flame suit* or have Endyn mod it.

 

oh n0es d00ster, tha dark side

sorry for my post contributing nothing, i know very little about this, but i do know one thing. make sure you research and evaluate everything. a few of my local friends are all boosted, and seeing problems they run into. make sure everything is done right.

as said above, find a local tuner and see what they recommend and see what they have done. all in all, they will be the ones that truly make it what it is

 

http://www.itrca.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7464

 

Doodster, just buy and Evo!

 

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agreed, and keep the R N/A and as close to stock as possible.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the Type-R's perfection is N/A. Most people say they would just do an all motor set up. I love the car inside and out, but to me it just lacks a little power to put you in your seat. Again yes the car wasn't made for power or straight line racing but rather the track. Overall I love everything about the R other than the power issue thats why id rather boost it and be happy as opposed to buying another car with more power but lacking in so many other areas. That is my thinking and why I plan on boosting. So much for keeping it stock

With that said, im looking to boost on stock internals (give it a few months ill be building this motor haha). I wanna keep it simple so that if one day i wanna go back to stock I can. For all you boosted ITR owners, what are the downfalls of a boosted R besides the greater chance of wear and tear and breaking parts. What setup would you suggest for a stock internal setup. Im guessing Ill be at 4-8 PSI, and what kind of numbers am I looking at? Key here is RELIABILITY making good power. What can I expect to pay once its all said and done?

I did my searching, and yes got alot of info but alot has changed over the past 5 years thats why im posting. I wanna hear it directly from the boosted folks! *Zips up flame suit* </TD></TR></TABLE>

turbo is the way to go. i'd sugest low 200's for reliability 230-240 at the most, up the hp and take away from engine life really fast. don't skip steps, make sure you understand every single part to make turbo kit work even if you do'nt do the install. at best, choose parts that you coudl reuse later on. at best, choose parts that will last longer and best for performance, like stainles steel for exhaust, aluminum for charge piping for better cooling. additional vents/enough and proper ventilation to prevent engine damage. with boost you can control your hp level via boost controler unlike anything else out there, you can go from 200-240whp by turning the ****. find reputable tuner and use something that controls everything inside ecu like hondata.

 

Simple, trade it in and buy a STI or EVO.

 

I have the greddy kit with intercooler, HKS Blow off valve, etc..
If you really want to go fast is going to take money since the ITR is highcompression and it doesn't really that work with turbos. I'm only running 7lbs... Ive had the car for two years with the turbo and nothing bad has happened. I really don't drive it much though and it was garaged for a while.... You are going to have to pay for the expensive stuff than to buy the average stuff. If you want more power you are going to have to rebuild the motor unless u want to blow a perfect motor. In this case if you want to boost it UP I would say get a GSR motor and swap it. Keep your ITR motor though... is pretty much priceless. Then if something goes wrong with the motor and the turbo you can always go back to the ITR motor and don't end up messing up a Type R motor. Better a GSR than ITR right?

 

Honestly people talk about successful and reliable setups and then I always hear about everyone else who blows their motors even with a good tune.

You might think that you can turbo the car safely run it for a while and then just take off the turbo and have a stock motor, but most cases arnt like that and your motor is going to get messed up. I know some people get away with it, but not everyone gets away with keeping a completely healthy motor after boosting it.

Slip in a b18b in there and boost the **** out of that, and when it blows just swap back the b18c5.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the Type-R's perfection is N/A. Most people say they would just do an all motor set up. I love the car inside and out, but to me it just lacks a little power to put you in your seat. Again yes the car wasn't made for power or straight line racing but rather the track. Overall I love everything about the R other than the power issue thats why id rather boost it and be happy as opposed to buying another car with more power but lacking in so many other areas. That is my thinking and why I plan on boosting. So much for keeping it stock

With that said, im looking to boost on stock internals (give it a few months ill be building this motor haha). I wanna keep it simple so that if one day i wanna go back to stock I can. For all you boosted ITR owners, what are the downfalls of a boosted R besides the greater chance of wear and tear and breaking parts. What setup would you suggest for a stock internal setup. Im guessing Ill be at 4-8 PSI, and what kind of numbers am I looking at? Key here is RELIABILITY making good power. What can I expect to pay once its all said and done?

I did my searching, and yes got alot of info but alot has changed over the past 5 years thats why im posting. I wanna hear it directly from the boosted folks! *Zips up flame suit* </TD></TR></TABLE>


dont do it alright?

 

have you considered using a different block? That way you'll still have your original motor off to the side so when you're ready to go back to normal it'll still be pristine and you can lay waste to a cheap b18b or gsr block.... just an idea. If I ever went FI that's what I'd do personally I'd hate to know I blew a rod though my original block.

 

From my experience with the JRSC....... DO IT.

I love the JRSC, and my motor seems to as well. I ran into a huge headache right after installing the charger, but all of it was due to tuning. Once Jeff and I flew in Trey to tune both of our cars, my car has not run better.

Along with the S300, the supercharger works very well with the car. Power everywhere.

As for the comment about the superchargers needing to be rebuilt and being junk, I disagree. It is my understanding that the screws can begin to wear down over time, mainly attributed to dirt coming in through the air intake. I bought my charger used from Jim, and it looked almost brand new even after a few years of use.

Changing the belt on it is not hard, but time consuming and can be aggrivating at times. However, the cost of the belt is very cheap, costing just more than a gallon of 92 Octane gas.

JRSC

 

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Would have baught an EVO... almost did... my fiance said no

 

Im going to keep looking at all possibilities and even start looking into jackson racing superchargers and see. Still dont know, i just know i need more power and I dont feel like spending 5k+ on a good all motor setup to barely break 200 hp.

 

The ITR is a very well balanced car, sure it's not the fastest. But if you were looking for fast then why did you get a 1.8 liter 4 cylinder n/a car?

As machgo5go said, trade it in / sell to someone who will appreciate it and move on, It's not worth putting 5k into it, you just said it. If you had a STi and dumped 5k in to that you would have a sickly fast car that could be used all year around and will have min worries about theft.

It's apparently not the car for you, don't kill the car with absurd mods and still be unhappy. It will wind up being a money pit that never satisfies you and the next guy won't be too happy with the mods because I'll guarantee that the work Hack job will come into play.

Do the right thing, sell it.

 

^^Well said, it does sound like you might be wanting to move on. A type-R just really wasnt meant to be boosted. Besides, I would think twice about buying a Boosted R or one that was boosted. Im not really in to drag racing so when I see these monster HP FWD cars, I wonder if they could ever run efficiently on a track.

 

Dude, keep her N/A. Like others have said, buy an EVO or SRT-4() if you need boost.

Then, sell my old R back to me!

 

For an R, this is the ONLY kit I'd even look at:

http://www.full-race.com/catal...d=469

Add hondata S300 w/boost, a good tune, and you've got yourself an instant spoolin monster.