Switching from Si to Hatch
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Switching from Si to Hatch
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This is where I am at. When I was 16 I got my 2000 SI brand new. I was an idiot and decided to remove the ENTIRE AC system. I live in south florida and it was the most horrible thing I have ever done. Another thing is in the last year my car was SLAMMED into on new years and dented the rear drivers quarter badly. Damage estimated at anywhere from $1700-$2500 (still not fixed) This is not to mention the car has been wrecked 3 other times 2 front end and one into the divers door. It was also backed into a concrete pole with the door open and it bent the passenger door skin.(also not fixed) At 23 years old now I have gotten sick of the sweaty drives to work/school and looking at my baby so banged up so I have decided to get a 96-00 hatch with working AC and a more solid body and just scrap the si.
pic of the rear damage
Question:
If I start swapping parts, I know almost everything will swap over but, is there anything that will NOT that I should be aware of? Especially in the suspension and air conditioning system? Is there anything that will NOT work with the 96-98 but WILL with 99-00? Im not switching any body panels so the whole front end swap thing is not a question. Neither is the motor because I know its a direct swap over. Don't forget I have a complete SI as a parts car so I will have every nut and bolt from both cars to use. I searched and read through a million faq pages but with all the missing pics and tables etc. I thought I would get an updated response here. Thanks in advance.
This is where I am at. When I was 16 I got my 2000 SI brand new. I was an idiot and decided to remove the ENTIRE AC system. I live in south florida and it was the most horrible thing I have ever done. Another thing is in the last year my car was SLAMMED into on new years and dented the rear drivers quarter badly. Damage estimated at anywhere from $1700-$2500 (still not fixed) This is not to mention the car has been wrecked 3 other times 2 front end and one into the divers door. It was also backed into a concrete pole with the door open and it bent the passenger door skin.(also not fixed) At 23 years old now I have gotten sick of the sweaty drives to work/school and looking at my baby so banged up so I have decided to get a 96-00 hatch with working AC and a more solid body and just scrap the si.
pic of the rear damage
Question:
If I start swapping parts, I know almost everything will swap over but, is there anything that will NOT that I should be aware of? Especially in the suspension and air conditioning system? Is there anything that will NOT work with the 96-98 but WILL with 99-00? Im not switching any body panels so the whole front end swap thing is not a question. Neither is the motor because I know its a direct swap over. Don't forget I have a complete SI as a parts car so I will have every nut and bolt from both cars to use. I searched and read through a million faq pages but with all the missing pics and tables etc. I thought I would get an updated response here. Thanks in advance.
Re: Switching from Si to Hatch (electronb16si)
You can swap anything over from the Si except for the rear panels, seats, and rear end.
Only thing you can't really swap is the engine harness.
Only thing you can't really swap is the engine harness.
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front end has been rebuilt twice, the crossmember is cracked right now, it has no ac or powersteering, the rear driver side trailing arm is bent. The truck has rusted due to water getting in from the dent. The car has no resale value so I mine as well put all the good stuff on a better frame/body and sell off what I can. I know its sad for an Si to go like this but I can't help it.
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Bring it back up...
So you say the rear end won't switch over, do you mean suspension wise? Can I switch the Si brakes over? Is it just the shocks and struts that will not work?
Also does the a/c compressor bolt up to the b16 block? Is there anything else I would need to make the a/c functional with the different motor?
TIA
So you say the rear end won't switch over, do you mean suspension wise? Can I switch the Si brakes over? Is it just the shocks and struts that will not work?
Also does the a/c compressor bolt up to the b16 block? Is there anything else I would need to make the a/c functional with the different motor?
TIA
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Re: (electronb16si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by electronb16si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bring it back up...
So you say the rear end won't switch over, do you mean suspension wise? Can I switch the Si brakes over? Is it just the shocks and struts that will not work?
Also does the a/c compressor bolt up to the b16 block? Is there anything else I would need to make the a/c functional with the different motor?
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
not sure about the A/C because it is the first thing i get rid of but about the brakes will switch over no problems and shocks and stuts will also switch over!
So you say the rear end won't switch over, do you mean suspension wise? Can I switch the Si brakes over? Is it just the shocks and struts that will not work?
Also does the a/c compressor bolt up to the b16 block? Is there anything else I would need to make the a/c functional with the different motor?
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
not sure about the A/C because it is the first thing i get rid of but about the brakes will switch over no problems and shocks and stuts will also switch over!
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Re: (electronb16si)
You shouldn't be asking what switches over, you should be asking what doesn't switch over. 99% of the parts are interchangable. I'd take the entire front subframe off the SI and bolt it under the hatch. That way you get the suspension, brakes motor and tranny and harness in one go.
You'll need a catback but, I think that's about it.
You'll need a catback but, I think that's about it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MasterKwan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You shouldn't be asking what switches over, you should be asking what doesn't switch over. 99% of the parts are interchangable. I'd take the entire front subframe off the SI and bolt it under the hatch. That way you get the suspension, brakes motor and tranny and harness in one go. You'll need a catback but, I think that's about it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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If I start swapping parts, <U>I know almost everything will swap over but, is there anything that will NOT that I should be aware of?</U> Especially in the suspension and air conditioning system? Is there anything that will NOT work with the 96-98 but WILL with 99-00? <U>Im not switching any body panels so the whole front end swap thing is not a question. </U>
That was my original post. Thanks for the input.
Modified by electronb16si at 3:04 AM 1/8/2007
Question:
If I start swapping parts, <U>I know almost everything will swap over but, is there anything that will NOT that I should be aware of?</U> Especially in the suspension and air conditioning system? Is there anything that will NOT work with the 96-98 but WILL with 99-00? <U>Im not switching any body panels so the whole front end swap thing is not a question. </U>
That was my original post. Thanks for the input.
Modified by electronb16si at 3:04 AM 1/8/2007
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A/C compatibility? What bracket or compressor can I use? Are the compressors the same on both cars?
Does the whole suspension swap over? Shocks, springs, front camber kit, brakes, control arms? Is everything the same on 96-00 or does it differ in the two body styles?
getting the hatch soon want to be ready for everything.!
Does the whole suspension swap over? Shocks, springs, front camber kit, brakes, control arms? Is everything the same on 96-00 or does it differ in the two body styles?
getting the hatch soon want to be ready for everything.!
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I'm kinda fuzzy on what exactly you are swapping. Are you swapping the engine as well?
List what you wanna put into the EK, then pple can tell you if it's doable or not.
Out of what's already listed, you said the EK already has AC. If you swap the B16 in everything will bolt right up (no fabrication nor extra parts), and you can use the PS pump right off the B16.
As for the suspension I'm not sure if that will work or not. Leave that to somebody who knows suspension well (I'll holla @ Archidictus for ya).
Other than that, what else do you want to be swapped over from this EM1?
List what you wanna put into the EK, then pple can tell you if it's doable or not.
Out of what's already listed, you said the EK already has AC. If you swap the B16 in everything will bolt right up (no fabrication nor extra parts), and you can use the PS pump right off the B16.
As for the suspension I'm not sure if that will work or not. Leave that to somebody who knows suspension well (I'll holla @ Archidictus for ya).
Other than that, what else do you want to be swapped over from this EM1?
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Re: (Syndacate)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm kinda fuzzy on what exactly you are swapping. Are you swapping the engine as well?
List what you wanna put into the EK, then pple can tell you if it's doable or not.
Out of what's already listed, you said the EK already has AC. If you swap the B16 in everything will bolt right up (no fabrication nor extra parts), and you can use the PS pump right off the B16.
As for the suspension I'm not sure if that will work or not. Leave that to somebody who knows suspension well (I'll holla @ Archidictus for ya).
Other than that, what else do you want to be swapped over from this EM1?</TD></TR></TABLE>
suspension will swap over just fine!
List what you wanna put into the EK, then pple can tell you if it's doable or not.
Out of what's already listed, you said the EK already has AC. If you swap the B16 in everything will bolt right up (no fabrication nor extra parts), and you can use the PS pump right off the B16.
As for the suspension I'm not sure if that will work or not. Leave that to somebody who knows suspension well (I'll holla @ Archidictus for ya).
Other than that, what else do you want to be swapped over from this EM1?</TD></TR></TABLE>
suspension will swap over just fine!
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Re: (SexyEgSix)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SexyEgSix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything will swap...but the rear seats and rear parts</TD></TR></TABLE>
rear parts?
rear parts?
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thanks syndacate and richard. I plan on basically swithcing EVERYTHING over that is physically possible, complete interior, (but I guess not the rear seats) complete suspension, complete engine/tranny
I knew that most stuff could be swapped I was just a bit unsure on the parts of the suspension that were interchangeable and the air conditioning components that I would have to use but you guys cleared it up. Thanks alot
I knew that most stuff could be swapped I was just a bit unsure on the parts of the suspension that were interchangeable and the air conditioning components that I would have to use but you guys cleared it up. Thanks alot
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Re: (electronb16si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by electronb16si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks syndacate and richard. I plan on basically swithcing EVERYTHING over that is physically possible, complete interior, (but I guess not the rear seats) complete suspension, complete engine/tranny
I knew that most stuff could be swapped I was just a bit unsure on the parts of the suspension that were interchangeable and the air conditioning components that I would have to use but you guys cleared it up. Thanks alot</TD></TR></TABLE>
no problem
whats the situation with your front lip and are you willing to sell + all oem bolts?
I knew that most stuff could be swapped I was just a bit unsure on the parts of the suspension that were interchangeable and the air conditioning components that I would have to use but you guys cleared it up. Thanks alot</TD></TR></TABLE>
no problem
whats the situation with your front lip and are you willing to sell + all oem bolts?
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Re: (electronb16si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by electronb16si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front lip got stolen. I have one but its spray painted black and most of the mounting hardware was not included when I bought it from someone local. Sorry.
See, no lip. booo</TD></TR></TABLE>
DAMN guess i will have to shell out for one at the honda store!
as for the local none aftermarket i have tried them and the ebay ones and te GREDDY ones all b/s
See, no lip. booo</TD></TR></TABLE>
DAMN guess i will have to shell out for one at the honda store!
as for the local none aftermarket i have tried them and the ebay ones and te GREDDY ones all b/s
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lmfao damn dude your car got shittted on soo much.. but ay i just recently removed my AC completely the AC motor and everything in the dash because i have a cracked heater core and no AC to begin with ... but shitt i live in Las Vegas NV summer is soon approaching ..............expletive
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Re: Switching from Si to Hatch (electronb16si)
swap everything!
you will need a new bracket for your d-series A/C compressor from your hatch to fit onto your be-series engine from the SI. Del Sol B-series will work (hard to find) or the bracket from a b-series CRV.
other than that, swap the rear disc, sway bars, strut bars, wheels, seats, interior, gauges, prop valve, umm, lip.
Oh if you have an exhuast it will fit up until the rear axle, from there it will need modding to fit a hatch.
but seriously, swap EVERYTHING! I did
you will need a new bracket for your d-series A/C compressor from your hatch to fit onto your be-series engine from the SI. Del Sol B-series will work (hard to find) or the bracket from a b-series CRV.
other than that, swap the rear disc, sway bars, strut bars, wheels, seats, interior, gauges, prop valve, umm, lip.
Oh if you have an exhuast it will fit up until the rear axle, from there it will need modding to fit a hatch.
but seriously, swap EVERYTHING! I did
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