lowering spring suggestions
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before i commence with this post, i am not a noob and i'm sure there are other threads about this. i already have neuspeed sports but am unhappy with the uneven drop they gave the car. it's almost dumped in the rear and about a 2 finger gap in the front....anyway, the purpose of my post is for people to give suggestions on a good set of springs with preferably no more than a 1.75'' drop or 2'' max THAT THEY HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH that they know provide an equal drop front and rear. and pics would be awesome too. the current springs are installed properly, before anyone brings that up as a possible reason for the uneven drop... TIA for any help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, just so you know, there's a rather solid Search feature available. Check it out, it's on the top right corner of your screen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how did i know you were going to come and cry about searching. can you not read? i know what springs are claimed to have drops within the range i'm looking for. i want real life testimony from people that have used them on their cars. i went by what the spring manufacturer said the drop would be with my current springs and ended up with an uneven drop.
how did i know you were going to come and cry about searching. can you not read? i know what springs are claimed to have drops within the range i'm looking for. i want real life testimony from people that have used them on their cars. i went by what the spring manufacturer said the drop would be with my current springs and ended up with an uneven drop.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curiouz_G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get coilovers
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that is a good idea. the only reason i didn't get some ground controls or something was because springs are cheaper, but i may have to bite the bullet and spend more on some coilovers...
</TD></TR></TABLE>that is a good idea. the only reason i didn't get some ground controls or something was because springs are cheaper, but i may have to bite the bullet and spend more on some coilovers...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UNBRE4K4BLE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how did i know you were going to come and cry about searching. can you not read? i know what springs are claimed to have drops within the range i'm looking for. i want real life testimony from people that have used them on their cars. i went by what the spring manufacturer said the drop would be with my current springs and ended up with an uneven drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no need to be a d!ck, u could have EASILY found the info u wanted by searching.
Regardless, most people are now turning toward Ground Control Coil Over SLEEVES! and Koni yellow struts over any coilovers.
how did i know you were going to come and cry about searching. can you not read? i know what springs are claimed to have drops within the range i'm looking for. i want real life testimony from people that have used them on their cars. i went by what the spring manufacturer said the drop would be with my current springs and ended up with an uneven drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no need to be a d!ck, u could have EASILY found the info u wanted by searching.
Regardless, most people are now turning toward Ground Control Coil Over SLEEVES! and Koni yellow struts over any coilovers.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Curiouz_G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh no, i actually meant COILOVERS as in Tein, KSport, Progressive, etc. But Koni and GC also work well. ive seen them on alot of cars personally and they look really good. </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha yeah, i know you meant full coilovers...i ruled those out because i already have kyb agx's, so i would need to go with sleeves....plus, i had tein hr's on my ITR back in the day, and i can't say the ride or performance was any more impressive than my current set up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vantage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no need to be a d!ck, u could have EASILY found the info u wanted by searching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't have responded the way I did, but he is always the first person to enter a thread ranting about the search function. In this case, searching didn't help me, because most of the information about the ride height springs provide is just someone posting what the manufacturer's claim is, so I made the thread.
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.
haha yeah, i know you meant full coilovers...i ruled those out because i already have kyb agx's, so i would need to go with sleeves....plus, i had tein hr's on my ITR back in the day, and i can't say the ride or performance was any more impressive than my current set up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vantage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no need to be a d!ck, u could have EASILY found the info u wanted by searching.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't have responded the way I did, but he is always the first person to enter a thread ranting about the search function. In this case, searching didn't help me, because most of the information about the ride height springs provide is just someone posting what the manufacturer's claim is, so I made the thread.
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UNBRE4K4BLE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn't have responded the way I did, but he is always the first person to enter a thread ranting about the search function. In this case, searching didn't help me, because most of the information about the ride height springs provide is just someone posting what the manufacturer's claim is, so I made the thread.
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You still blew up like a spoiled child, though. I responded nicely with a suggestion, and you whined about it. Not really a mature way to react.
Oh, and since searching didn't help you...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1701121
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1700085
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1744447
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1825053
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1809019
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1797391
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1792096
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1757052
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1715937
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1719384
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1730669
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1703884
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You still blew up like a spoiled child, though. I responded nicely with a suggestion, and you whined about it. Not really a mature way to react.
Oh, and since searching didn't help you...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1701121
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1700085
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1744447
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1825053
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1809019
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1797391
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1792096
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1757052
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1715937
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1719384
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1730669
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1703884
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UNBRE4K4BLE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont know what type of springs u are currently riding on, but from my experience the only manufactor's that have bad information about their own products are manufactors u dont want to be dealing with anyway.
I'm very hesitant to believe manufacturers after what happened with my current springs. I just want verification.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont know what type of springs u are currently riding on, but from my experience the only manufactor's that have bad information about their own products are manufactors u dont want to be dealing with anyway.
ive been reading all the posts about coilovers and suspension set-ups and i just have one question. What is the EDFC feature that everyone talks about that is available for the tein ss and the tein flex coilovers?
hmm, searching works well.
EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) makes it possible for the driver to control the damping force by controlling a motor installed in the shock absorber while being seated in the driver's seat. Since the damping force can be manually controlled with ease to meet different situations, the driver can enjoy variations in the suspension setting.
EDFC is developed based on the following concepts:
1. Easily controlled from the inside
To control the damping force, the driver does not need to raise the hood or take off rear interior parts such as the speaker board or rear seat. All a driver is required to do is simply operate a button while being seated in the driver's seat.
According to the marketing research we have carried out, EDFC is always ranked high on the 'want list'. Therefore, it has grown from overwhelming customer demand, specifically from requests by customers who have purchased damping-force-control-type shock absorbers, or who intend to purchase shock absorbers made by TEIN Inc.
2. Memory contents easily recalled
EDFC can store in its memory up to three types of damping force levels which have been set up according to various situations, and is equipped with a memory recall function. With the touch of a button, the driver can set the damping force level to his/her preference in various modes such as a normal driving mode when going out with family, a sports mode when enjoying a winding road alone, and a cruising mode when driving on a freeway. Moreover, pushing the button for more than two seconds can easily change the stored memory.
3. Compact in size
We made it compact in size, equivalent to 1/4 DIN, so that it can be installed in a position where the driver can easily operate in the driver's seat.
4. Installed in a wide range of vehicles
In the future, we will develop shock absorbers which will be equipped with the EDFC. There are some vehicle types, however, for which the EDFC cannot be installed due to problems such as narrow clearance. As for shock absorbers already purchased by customers previously, we will confirm the installation.>
5. Reasonable Price
Sales price of $380 (list price).
We realized a reasonable sales price.
Function of EDFC
1. Damping force control function (16 levels / 32 levels)
Our damping-force-control-type shock absorbers normally have a built in damping force control function for 16 levels. This function controls the damping force by adjusting the rate of oil flow in the bypass through raising and lowering the damping force control needle built in piston rod for 16 levels. In the EDFC, this function is performed by a stepping motor installed on the top of piston rod, realizing a 16-level control, the same as in the manual control. Moreover, the operation by the controller with a decreased rotation angle has realized a finer adjustment of a 32-level mode in the same control range. The damping force for the front and rear wheels can be separately controlled, and the right and left wheels are simultaneously controlled.
2. Damping force level maintaining function
An EDFC switch is connected with the key position of the vehicle, the same as in general car audio components. If the EDFC power switch is continuously turned on, the EDFC can store in memory the click position setting when the driver gets out of the car and the key switch is turned off. Thus, when the engine is restarted, he/she can drive using the same setting. All memory contents are deleted when the EDFC power switch is turned off. The electric current to maintain memory is as slight as the current necessary for a standard equipment clock, and there is little possibility of a dead battery.
4. Damping force level memory function
It is equipped with a function to store in memory three settings of the damping force. The level setting in memory can be maintained even if the engine is turned off. The memory contents can be recalled with the touch of a button. Moreover, the stored memory contents can be easily changed by pushing the button for more than two seconds.
5. Damping force level resetting function
After the EDFC is installed, the driver will put it into a return-to-origin mode by rotating the motor in the clockwise direction when the power is turned on. With this operation, the controller can recognize the origin of the damping force control needle. The EDFC is equipped with a function to execute the return-to-origin mode compulsorily in the following occasions: in the case of installation or detachment of the EDFC, or when the control level is changed from 16-level to 32-level, or when the level displayed is different from the actual one due to external and mechanical reasons. This operation is not necessary in the normal driving, however. Turning on the main power again after turning it off can reset the damping force level. At this time, the memory contents are also reset.
6. Self-checking/warning function
In the case where the EDFC does not function correctly (due to an overcurrent or detached wires, etc.), all three memory buttons will blink red with an alarm sound and an error indication displayed, and the driver can confirm the position of the malfunctioning motor on the screen.
7. Volume/brightness control function
The beep sound volume while operating the EDFC can be set at three levels and can also be put into a silent mode. It is also possible to adjust the brightness of the display at three levels. This adjustment is connected with the power source for lamps, and it functions when the dimmer function is in operation at night.
8. Mis-operation preventive function
The EDFC is equipped with a lock mode, which prevents mis-operation. The 'key' mark is displayed and all operations become impossible including turning the power on and off. It is useful when the driver allows another driver to drive an EDFC-equipped vehicle.
EDFC (Electronic Damping Force Controller) makes it possible for the driver to control the damping force by controlling a motor installed in the shock absorber while being seated in the driver's seat. Since the damping force can be manually controlled with ease to meet different situations, the driver can enjoy variations in the suspension setting.
EDFC is developed based on the following concepts:
1. Easily controlled from the inside
To control the damping force, the driver does not need to raise the hood or take off rear interior parts such as the speaker board or rear seat. All a driver is required to do is simply operate a button while being seated in the driver's seat.
According to the marketing research we have carried out, EDFC is always ranked high on the 'want list'. Therefore, it has grown from overwhelming customer demand, specifically from requests by customers who have purchased damping-force-control-type shock absorbers, or who intend to purchase shock absorbers made by TEIN Inc.
2. Memory contents easily recalled
EDFC can store in its memory up to three types of damping force levels which have been set up according to various situations, and is equipped with a memory recall function. With the touch of a button, the driver can set the damping force level to his/her preference in various modes such as a normal driving mode when going out with family, a sports mode when enjoying a winding road alone, and a cruising mode when driving on a freeway. Moreover, pushing the button for more than two seconds can easily change the stored memory.
3. Compact in size
We made it compact in size, equivalent to 1/4 DIN, so that it can be installed in a position where the driver can easily operate in the driver's seat.
4. Installed in a wide range of vehicles
In the future, we will develop shock absorbers which will be equipped with the EDFC. There are some vehicle types, however, for which the EDFC cannot be installed due to problems such as narrow clearance. As for shock absorbers already purchased by customers previously, we will confirm the installation.>
5. Reasonable Price
Sales price of $380 (list price).
We realized a reasonable sales price.
Function of EDFC
1. Damping force control function (16 levels / 32 levels)
Our damping-force-control-type shock absorbers normally have a built in damping force control function for 16 levels. This function controls the damping force by adjusting the rate of oil flow in the bypass through raising and lowering the damping force control needle built in piston rod for 16 levels. In the EDFC, this function is performed by a stepping motor installed on the top of piston rod, realizing a 16-level control, the same as in the manual control. Moreover, the operation by the controller with a decreased rotation angle has realized a finer adjustment of a 32-level mode in the same control range. The damping force for the front and rear wheels can be separately controlled, and the right and left wheels are simultaneously controlled.
2. Damping force level maintaining function
An EDFC switch is connected with the key position of the vehicle, the same as in general car audio components. If the EDFC power switch is continuously turned on, the EDFC can store in memory the click position setting when the driver gets out of the car and the key switch is turned off. Thus, when the engine is restarted, he/she can drive using the same setting. All memory contents are deleted when the EDFC power switch is turned off. The electric current to maintain memory is as slight as the current necessary for a standard equipment clock, and there is little possibility of a dead battery.
4. Damping force level memory function
It is equipped with a function to store in memory three settings of the damping force. The level setting in memory can be maintained even if the engine is turned off. The memory contents can be recalled with the touch of a button. Moreover, the stored memory contents can be easily changed by pushing the button for more than two seconds.
5. Damping force level resetting function
After the EDFC is installed, the driver will put it into a return-to-origin mode by rotating the motor in the clockwise direction when the power is turned on. With this operation, the controller can recognize the origin of the damping force control needle. The EDFC is equipped with a function to execute the return-to-origin mode compulsorily in the following occasions: in the case of installation or detachment of the EDFC, or when the control level is changed from 16-level to 32-level, or when the level displayed is different from the actual one due to external and mechanical reasons. This operation is not necessary in the normal driving, however. Turning on the main power again after turning it off can reset the damping force level. At this time, the memory contents are also reset.
6. Self-checking/warning function
In the case where the EDFC does not function correctly (due to an overcurrent or detached wires, etc.), all three memory buttons will blink red with an alarm sound and an error indication displayed, and the driver can confirm the position of the malfunctioning motor on the screen.
7. Volume/brightness control function
The beep sound volume while operating the EDFC can be set at three levels and can also be put into a silent mode. It is also possible to adjust the brightness of the display at three levels. This adjustment is connected with the power source for lamps, and it functions when the dimmer function is in operation at night.
8. Mis-operation preventive function
The EDFC is equipped with a lock mode, which prevents mis-operation. The 'key' mark is displayed and all operations become impossible including turning the power on and off. It is useful when the driver allows another driver to drive an EDFC-equipped vehicle.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrtrinh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pwned</TD></TR></TABLE>
negative. As I stated already, I did a search. Out of all of those threads, I saw maybe 3 pictures of a drop that stated what the car was lowered with, and those were the springs that I already have. And the majority of the threads are about coilover sleeves or full coilovers. I asked about springs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vantage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know what type of springs u are currently riding on, but from my experience the only manufactor's that have bad information about their own products are manufactors u dont want to be dealing with anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have neuspeed sports. I always thought neuspeed was a reputable manufacturer, until I installed, re-installed, and re-installed the springs again, and the back end is still a lot lower than the front. The springs are advertised to be 1.75'' front and 1.5'' rear.
neuspeed sports w/kyb agx's:

Modified by UNBRE4K4BLE at 4:06 PM 1/9/2007
negative. As I stated already, I did a search. Out of all of those threads, I saw maybe 3 pictures of a drop that stated what the car was lowered with, and those were the springs that I already have. And the majority of the threads are about coilover sleeves or full coilovers. I asked about springs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vantage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know what type of springs u are currently riding on, but from my experience the only manufactor's that have bad information about their own products are manufactors u dont want to be dealing with anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have neuspeed sports. I always thought neuspeed was a reputable manufacturer, until I installed, re-installed, and re-installed the springs again, and the back end is still a lot lower than the front. The springs are advertised to be 1.75'' front and 1.5'' rear.
neuspeed sports w/kyb agx's:

Modified by UNBRE4K4BLE at 4:06 PM 1/9/2007
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