Before i could even reply...a 94 lude vtec wont break 15's..infact..according to most major magazine and from what ive seen with my own eyes they run mid tow low 15's....let me think..so does a GS-R. you guys are just all biased about the lude, cause you all own one..now if I took this to the GS-R forum they woulda all thumbs me up'd and said the lude is a heavy pig..which is it. I run mid 14's with my current setup..a prelude with the same setup would NOT run low 14's, and besides...hes an old transam driver from california (live in NY now) he knows how ot drive..and it aint that difficult to bhang gears in a straight line..bottom line he could'nt keep up..his car wasnt fast nuf. oh well. infact I think i could honestly say id beat any i/h/e 4th gen...my power to weight is just better..as for the moderator saying he was hanging with a JRSC gs-r w\bolt ons...ROFL sure you did man, thats why a JRSC would easilly turn out 13's..and a bolt on lude would never turn out anything below mid to low 14's. so you can all praise ur 'great' car. but I spanked his lude..and ill spank it again..again and again. its called power to weight and high end..and id beat him anytime..with any other driver behind his wheel. thanks for listening.

-98gs-RAW

 

Prelude Vtec 23 ran mid 14s with I/H/E with his 4th gen on street tires. 14.2 on slicks.

 

:quote: Prelude Vtec 23 ran mid 14s with I/H/E with his 4th gen on street tires. 14.2 on slicks. :quote:

is what you wrote.

:quote: run mid 14's with my current setup..a prelude with the same setup would NOT run low 14's. :quote:

is what i said, so my words, werent that far off. ludes with a i/h/e setup will run mid 14's, but so will the gs-R with the same setup..I know I have one..but anyways. that my only point..gs-rs with same mods hang with ludes no problem. agreed the 2.2 would have more torque..but always more weight. if I slapped slicks on my gs-r I could run low 14's also...**** with a 7000 launch i might tap 13's. but im not here to argue just to prove a point

-98gs-r

 

i guess whatever. i didnt really read your post thoroughly anyways - this topic has been beaten to death, who cares anymore

 

Yet another person who wont quit until they try to prove that their car is superior to all others.

 

actually, there was 7 posts after my original post and the moderator locked it..Im just replying so i can get my opinions and points across..thats all..never once did I say my car was superior to anyones.

-98gs-raw

 

Remember the moderator that locked your first post? He didn't do it because he was mad that you beat a prelude. He did it because this is not a tech related post and you posted it in a tech forum. How much of a moron can you be? He even told you that when he locked it. We don't care if you're bolt-ons get you into the low 14s. 14s are slow. They always have been and they always will be. Get over it. You spent close to a grand on bolt-ons that that gave you about 10 whp over stock, congratulations. You should have put that money towards a Drag kit or invested in an NOS plate kit, at least then you could say that you have a 13 second car.
BTW,you magazine racing genius, good drivers regularly pull 14.8s out of their STOCK 4G VTEC preludes. Also JG was running a high enough compressin ratio in his 4G to make you **** your pampers, now get the hell out of here until you have some useful prelude TECH information.

 

i went 14.6 with ajust an intake and header on my 4 door prelude.

Lets see a 4 door GSR go faster then me with my mods...on streets by the way.

 

hmm....see guys this is why you shouldn't do drugs....
anyway, can you tell me why i ran a 15 flat with a stock prelude VTEC then?
and why did i run 14.76 with i/h/e/sfc? since you know better, maybe you could look it up in one of your magazines and find an answer there. (and those, btw, say your GS-R runs 15.7 -15.8 sec 1/4mile times). stock for stock, i'll spank your GS-R silly. period. and i've done it many times.

no, actually i'm not biased about anything. i like both cars. i've driven a GSR many many times and i probably drive it better than you. but personally i like my prelude better and i chose it over a GSR for a few reasons: exterior styling, interior styling, torque, fun factor, etc. it seems to me that you're biased because you own a GS-R, get off the clouds dude it's not like you own a McLaren F1. well, not all of us go for speed strictly. maybe we like the luxury of the prelude, maybe we like the fact that prelude got better crash-test ratings....
and maybe you should take this to your GS-R forum and cheer with your buddies how prelude is a heavy pig.
can we see a time slip?
but then again, we don't really give a rats *** what you run with your set-up.we'll praise our cars for as long as we own them, just in case you wanted to know.
you spanked some guy's prelude? wow, aren't you tough. well i spanked a ton of GS-R, does that mean i can spank any GS-R? no. same goes for you.
just last week i raced my friend's GS-R with i/h/e/sfc-vtec/cam gears/pullies and walked all over him. and yes, he is a good driver.
no problem, now do us all a favor and go back to your GS-R forum, because you have nothing to prove here. or come back with something smart to say. this forum is here so we could help eachother out, not argue which car is better or faster.
btw, how old are you? 16-17??? just curious....

THANKS FOR LISTENING


[Modified by BB1, 10:03 PM 5/14/2002]

 

oh and forgot to add another little detail...
how many times was a GS-R awarded a best sports coupe title? hm.......
if my memory serves me good, prelude got this award almost every year since it was first introduced.
most of people underestimate preludes, and it looks like you're one of them. but that's cool, we don't really care what you think. as a matter of fact, we don't care what anyone thinks about preludes. what we care about is that we like them, enjoy driving them, and we're happy we're able to drive such a great car. opinions of no-lifers like your self don't really matter dude.
and learn how to write..........

 

Maybe you didnt exactly say your car is superior but you definately imply it by saying things like "I run mid 14's with my current setup..a prelude with the same setup would NOT run low 14's". Look I'm NOT trying to flame or anything, but if you want people to say "ya, GSRs are faster then Ludes", then you should go to the GSR Forum where you and some other GSR owner can make each other feel secure about the cars you drive.

And magazine quoting is ok, but it has to be done responsibly. Finding one really fast GSR time is not the way to do it. You have to take an average of all times from reputable sources. And based on the average times that I've seen, 4th Gen ludes generally do low to flat 15s, and GSRs run mid to higher 15s. Sorry, those are the numbers, and I can tell you where im getting them from. And direct comparison tests are even better because they use standard testing procedures. And in two tests that ive read, the GSR was slower than the 5th Gen lude both times, not to even mention the 4th gen. (I can show you where I read these too)

But magazine times only indicate the Stock performance of the car using controlled testing procedures. This has nothing to do with how well you and your car race against someone else and their car. The only way to find out is to race.


[Modified by psychodog, 2:28 AM 5/15/2002]

 

nice point. Who cares what this guy says he obviously favors gsrs. It is pointless to argue with someone that is just ignorant, they see what they wanna see. He knew if he posted this that it would start some arguments so why did he?? Does anyone here go to the integra section posting things saying they can beat gsrs? Whatever....let him think what he wants.

 

MrVtec runs 4's with his prelude, because he has the power of VTECK, go ask him, he's a real pro, he can help you hahaha

 

 

its funny to see all the **** someone can type while sitting behind a computer. dude, chill out. seriously. no one cares if your car can beat a prelude or not. there is always someone out there that is bigger and better then you, it could be a prelude, it could be a civic... it could even be a 9sec tiburon. as stated before, we dont go into the gs-r forum talking ****, so stop coming in here and wasting our times with useless threads. try spanking my prelude....


[Modified by GudeH23a, 10:48 AM 5/15/2002]

 

Alright, here's how it's going to play out you **** yodling pickle sniffer. I locked that thread for a reason, and because YOU CONTINUED TO STAY WITH THIS TOPIC I'm assuming it was important enough for you to lose a point off your user rating. Keep going, you'll be interested to see what happens after you lose a few more.

I ran consistant 14.70's, BONE STOCK, on rat *** Firestone street radials, in hot humid weather, with 90,000 miles on my ticker. Find me a GSR that has done that. GO ON. FIND ONE. I have been at the track with NUMEROUS GSR's that can't even break into the 14's, and I've even seen a few that did break into it, but it took I/H/E FPR, cam gears, VAFC and dyno tuning. THAT'S ******* SAD! I have a friend that beat every stock internaled N/A GSR he's raced and the fastest time it's run was with me driving. 14.82. That's it. Guess what boy wonder, that's not stock, and it still isn't as fast as my car was.

So what I'm going to do is start a thread over in the Integra forum and we'll see what happens. I'm betting that even the guys over there know that stock for stock, or even mod for mod the GSR is going to get hosed.

So here's the deal. If you so much as post a response in this thread, neigh, in this FORUM, with a negative tone, I'm taking another point. Do you understand me? This is a tech forum, and if you continue to push me, I will force you to your knees, rip out your left eyeball and dry **** your eye socket till I *** on your brain. I am the merciless God of your world while you're in here. Remember that punk, and your account might live to see 30 posts.

 

For once you are right. The car pulled a 13.20 that night I believe. We ran 'em on the way to the track. You haven't bothered to ask about my setup have you slick?


Oh and this?:
Member VeeTec on here, and http://www.hondaprelude.com, http://www.Preludeonline.com. He's a mod, and a well respected individual. He has witnesses and timeslips, and I've even driven the car. SOOO you can't really argue much.

93 VTEC Prelude. Stock internaled (which means ONLY BOLTONS to you Jr.):
13.79@100 mph. ON street tires. NOT stripped. There goes your theory that Preludes are fat pigs huh?

Tell me something... does it physically HURT to be that ignorant? It should.

 

Hmm I think the GS-R can't win best sports coupe cause it's a hatch? Just wondering. But Anyways I ran 14.80 in my 96 VTEC with just an intake on street tires...so what else is new..people other than this guy have already known what the car is capable of. 5th gens (in general) aren't as fast compared to 4th gen VTECs, but many of them run 14s stock.

But again who cares, you should be racing for yourself, not so you can start a big pissing contest.

 

I did it just for giggles.

https://honda-tech.com/zeropost?cmd=vote&id=19129

Go vote guys!

 

boohhhhyawwww prelude wins!

 

ha ha, that's pretty slick

 

hahahaha, holy **** man..... hahaha, so you're basically gonna skul **** him???
dayum, that should get the point accross.

 

I tried that link and is said "this poll is locked"...I cant even look at it..

 

I can vouch for that.. was there myself to witness it. Ran 15.2 myself. Stock.
I can't believe this is even an issue..