what would you do a k20a swap or turbo your car. your thoughts

 

oh what car? chassis?

 

base model rsx. sorry forgot about puting that down.

 

K20a swap all the way! it has much more potential.

 

lmao oh god, can't really help you there, well all that really matters is your $$, i'd turbo it if i were you, but then , i'd also consider selling it and getting a type s but iono

 

That shouldnt even be a question you should ask... TURBO THAT THING. when your turboing a stock motor it doesnt really matter if its a type S or base, stock internals can only handle a certain amount of power, and even though you might be using more boost with the base, there both going to max out at about the same whp.

 

na build son ... sell ur base ... get a type s ... n TODA dat babe out ... gains r beyond dat of n e turbo kit built 4 our car (sad 2 say ... i love turbos but not 4 da rsx) jus a high compression stroker kit from TODA give bout 80whp ... WHP ... damn dats around 160 hp b4 da crankshaft ... plus get more torque out of an N/A build ... i wont knock on da turbo idea though ... they sound so good but u kind of limit ur buildin ... i havent found n e forged pistons dat r low compression 2 b added on wid a turbo ... well good luck wid ur decision ... its good no matter wat u choose cuz u have n RSX ... LOL

 

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i still say do the k20a swap. you might be able to get 250 whp out of a k20a3 with a turbo kit if you throw enough cash at it. with the k20a, i/rh/e/cams/kpro will get at least that. the k20a3 isn't designed to flow enough air, its main strong points are fuel efficiency and low emissions. plus, reving the k20a to 8500 rpms would make a much more exciting car to drive over a boosted rsx base.

 

do a head swap + turbo .. might wanna refer back to this thread! http://forums.clubrsx.com/show...+head

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by inkong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">na build son ... sell ur base ... get a type s ... n TODA dat babe out ... gains r beyond dat of n e turbo kit built 4 our car (sad 2 say ... i love turbos but not 4 da rsx) jus a high compression stroker kit from TODA give bout 80whp ... WHP ... damn dats around 160 hp b4 da crankshaft ... plus get more torque out of an N/A build ... i wont knock on da turbo idea though ... they sound so good but u kind of limit ur buildin ... i havent found n e forged pistons dat r low compression 2 b added on wid a turbo ... well good luck wid ur decision ... its good no matter wat u choose cuz u have n RSX ... LOL </TD></TR></TABLE>

NA wont get more torque then a Turbo, thats just how it goes in the honda world. 80whp doesnt equal 160 to the crank lol.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bryce-o &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i still say do the k20a swap. you might be able to get 250 whp out of a k20a3 with a turbo kit if you throw enough cash at it. with the k20a, i/rh/e/cams/kpro will get at least that. the k20a3 isn't designed to flow enough air, its main strong points are fuel efficiency and low emissions. plus, reving the k20a to 8500 rpms would make a much more exciting car to drive over a boosted rsx base.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone says just throw on a header, cai, cams, kpro, exhaust and you'll make crazy power. Ya, you will make something like ~220-230 whp with all that stuff, but those things are really expensive for the RSX. And when you go all motor and make that much NA power, your car is going to be LOUD AS HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL. You will get instantly pulled over if a cop is even a block away. Turbo setups are usually less noisey.

If he swaps a motor and then does all the stuff you guys suggested, he would be spending over 10K, in a car that is worth about 10-12k

 

you have a point ... the car is only worth that much but if your truly willing to spend that kind of money ... why should it matter ...

160 was just an estimate about how much would come before the crank ... i dont know the specific numbers ... also you can build a N/A motor that isnt that loud ... but turbos are pretty quiet sure ...

the torque on the other hand ... i think with the right build you can get more torque without the lag time ... plus i like the vtec (vtc killers take out the "i" in i-vtec) but the build is still left to the driver ...

 

k20a. ive always been the naturally aspirated kinda guy. as much as a turbo is. but i just think that all motor is more fun. way more potential also. once you throw that turbo in the base. youre done. with the k20a. youd have a fresh motor. move power. real vtec. and thats just stock. you still have waaaaaay more options. including full bolt-ons. etc. get the motor. or sell and type S it. 05-06 are very similar to the real R. =]

 

I dont recommend turbo if your planning to have this car as a DD. More parts. More power. More money. You going to have headaches with the turbo for months unless you find a good tuner who knows what they are doing. I would just do the all motor less headaches.

 

turbos do give you too much problems when not tuned proper and if not maintained proper will also have a shorter life span ... but just because you put in a turbo doesnt mean that your done ... you still can add a couple more bolt ons and maybe some forged pistons with low compression for the turbo build ... once more depends ...

i still prefer NA

 

it's all your preference. if you like spending alot of money to just make minimal gains then go n/a. if you want to make some real power go turbo.

the only reason someone would put a k20a in there rsx is just so they can say they have a k20a in there rsx.

turbo&gt;k20a

turbo cars have plenty of room for making more power. and just get a person who know's what they are doing to tune it. we've got 6 honda's we built for guys that are making over 600hp that are daily driven.
it's all in the hands of the builder and the tuner.

 

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i still say do the k20a swap. you might be able to get 250 whp out of a k20a3 with a turbo kit if you throw enough cash at it. with the k20a, i/rh/e/cams/kpro will get at least that. the k20a3 isn't designed to flow enough air, its main strong points are fuel efficiency and low emissions. plus, reving the k20a to 8500 rpms would make a much more exciting car to drive over a boosted rsx base.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I completely disagree with this post. First off, 300whp is not a big deal for a k20a3. That can be had with just a simple cybernation stage 1 kit. It is actually a great motor for boost. The k20a is a great motor, but why spend the money on a k20a if you are going to upgrade N/A anyways. I'd say buy a k20a2 as a starting platform for an N/A build (if you are stuck on staying N/A). The k20a3 is a great motor for boost. I'd suggest switching to a new intake manifold (k20a2, etc). If you have a solid tuner who knows what he is doing, and either a good installer or the time and know how to install the kit yourself then I say definitely go turbo.

 

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I wouldn't turbo a base motor. If I were you I would do a k24/k20a2 frank motor and mod the hell out of that.

 

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I wouldn't turbo a base motor. If I were you I would do a k24/k20a2 frank motor and mod the hell out of that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i def. would turbo a base model..my homie has a turbo EP on an average amount of boost (9lbs or so) and its really nice.. great power, no internals, daily driven for 2 years now and still runs as good as stock. take advantage of that low compression boosting your motor would be alot cheaper that a type r swap. as far as im concerned k20a3's were ment for boost.

 

K20a, unless you can build up a k24a1 and turbo it for about the same price. A k20a3 will not last long if you plan on putting a lot of boost through it, its rods are crap. The K20a is Honda's premiere 4cyl, so it most likely will last and keep its value if you ever plan on going back to stock. If you have never built a turbo'd motor, then you don't understand how much of a pain in the *** it can be, a k20a is great outta the box and won't require a shitload of tuning and maintenance. Honestly, you'd probally be better off buying a K20a2 and dropping some IPS cams and custom internals in for the price of a K20a. JMHO

 

Doing a swap would make your setup original, especially if you could swap the 6speed trans into your base. Then turbo it too. Keep it simple and you'll have a base model sleeper. If you want it to be easy then just turbo or supercharge the setup you have currently, especially if you are on a pretty low budget and dont feel like having a ton of debt. Yea, people say the base model rods are crap, well so are b18 rods, but they have handled 180k turbo charged without a problem, another reason why not to overrev your car either, you can never tell how long a part will last until you actually try.

 

boostage.
plus spending 6000 for swapping a k20 is not worth it.. honestly you would get WAYYYYY more gains than the swap.
plus dont you like the "vroooooooom psshhh" sound? lol