hey just looking for some opions on what everyone thinks about which swap would be beter? i want to do either a k20 type r or a h22 type s on an integra type r tranny. i know the k is more money but yet will be faster. is it worth the extra money?? moneys not really a problem as i will be selling a gsr swap with a good bit of work done to it and have other money saved. it will be going into a 95 si by the way. thanks everyone.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch ( but i'd go K )

 

wait wait wait whoa what? h22 with an ITR trans? how do you plan on pulling that off? if i were you now this is just me talking here....95 si....its a 5th gen si so its a hatch and you're off to a good start...(unless your in canada) ls/vtec....12.5:1 compression...get some good cams (toda, crower, etc...) and a good valvetrain (crower, skunk 2, etc..)...Omni Power is making ITBs for b series coming in March of this year i believe 1100 bucks is the projected price....or if you can't wait for whatever reason you can get some TWM itb's for around $1700....people will say it's been done over and over but really does a good fun all motor hatch ever get played out? if you can make around 215-225 all motor whp you'll have some turbo guys crankin the boost up to try to keep up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1jdmferio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wait wait wait whoa what? h22 with an ITR trans? how do you plan on pulling that off? .</TD></TR></TABLE>

with the H2B trans adapter plate maybe? thats how everyone else does it.

 

here a pictore of the kit

H2B kit

 

depending on what you use it for, daily=K20 track=H2B

 

never road in a k.
but my friend had an h2b, and i nearly **** my pants.
i went out and put a regular h22 in my hatch/ and i havent met a b that could mness with me yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by djsire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">never road in a k.
but my friend had an h2b, and i nearly **** my pants.
i went out and put a regular h22 in my hatch/ and i havent met a b that could mness with me yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

H (torque + short gears) &gt; B ( torqueless)

 

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I love my h22 ek very much, but im done with it. i still cant decide what to do next.
with about 7k im gonna try to build a reliable 12 sec car.

 

h2b all day everyday, cost you less and youu go faster...with the same amount spent the h2b will be faster then the k.....

 

how much is that kit and where can i buy it?&gt;

 

i was told that by using a b series tranny on an H u loss alot of top end because H and F series trannys have longer gears

 

for $7k you could have a 10 second car.

 

 

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please explain in greater detail.

 

K20 has a lot more potential then the H22. Better aftermarket support too.

 

if you got money k

 

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http://www.quartersportsdrag.com/Kit_Contents.html

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BadA$$Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was told that by using a b series tranny on an H u loss alot of top end because H and F series trannys have longer gears</TD></TR></TABLE>

not too much. maybe 15 or 20 mph difference. f series are way longer then the H. the B series ( depending on which) is not too much shorter the the H. that B series tranny (H2B) can cut your time down by a whole second.

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aftermarket support too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think that's debatable

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by strictly.business &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for $7k you could have a 10 second car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

reliable?? please tell me more.

 

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H (torque + short gears) &gt; B ( torqueless)</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

if you want a more reliable car that will stay w/ you longer w/ some well above average power, go with the k. they're getting more and more popular as parts are them have become easier to get a hold of. and even if you're going to the tracks, addingsome good internals, and even a little turbo will
leave you with some good results.

 

i run a h2b(itr trans) + turbo... runs like a champ. right now k series motors are so expensive. but k series is the future of honda performance. if you got cash go k but if you dont h2b is the best bang for your money.

 

b series...all day every day...

but since that wasnt the question. i would say go h series. my buddy has one in his ek....i love it.

ks are awesome...but too much money. for the money you spend just getting a stock one you could build your h series a little bit.

good luck

 

H2B

 

K20... much more room for improvement over the H and even the B series engine.