My friend has been working the grave yard shift at his work for the last week so a couple nights ago i went down to keep him company and we decided to detail our cars and take some pictures. there not the best since i'm still trying to figure out all the settings on my new camera but i thought i'd share them anyways. enjoy.





















My 2000 Type R:








Friends 2007 Civic SI Sedan:

 

Nice. I really like the SI Sedan looks very clean and so does the other caR.

 

thats so clean bro, im such a ***** for four doors hella clean bro.

 

love the hids

 

that ciBic looks HUGE compared to the R lol

I saw a 4dr SI recently at the dealer, pretty damn nice!

 

The new Civic's are quite a bit larger in size than the Integra.
Lovin' the old and new together.

 

Yup the si looks sooo huge! Time will come when the Fit will be just as big as the R. Si looks appealling for a dd.

 

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I was thinking the same thing! I relaly like the Si sedan in white. It would still sit on the driveway while the R is in the garage though

 

the white thing looks like a boat compared to the DC2.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the white thing looks like a boat compared to the DC2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Seating position and cowl make it feel like a boat when you are driving it.

 

both cars are really nice looking

i really like the SI sedan, to bad its drive by wire.

 

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to bad its drive by wire.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"to = too" ?

why? fighter jets (F-16 & F-18, etc, etc, so on and so forth) are FBW. and your point is?

 

heh, it's similar to the first time I saw an RSX parked next to an ITR. The RSX looked huge.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fighter jets (F-16 & F-18, etc, etc, so on and so forth) are FBW. and your point is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The NSX was DBW since its inception, as well. It's about the implementation. For the Si, Honda programmed in a "rev hang" to aid in emissions or fuel economy. It's annoying from many accounts. Honda can perform reflash to reduce it, but not entirely.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 330R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The NSX was DBW since its inception, as well. It's about the implementation. Honda programmed in a "rev hang" to aid in emissions or fuel economy. It's annoying from many accounts. Honda can perform reflash to reduce it, but not entirely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

understood, but alot of cars, performance cars can have a reflash performed. I think this is a moot point since a buttload of cars are now DBW and can be reflashed to negate/minimalize the issue.

it's the way things are and or going to be. better to accept it now and learn to compensate.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alot of performance cars can have a reflash performed. I think this is a moot point since a buttload of cars are now DBW and can be reflashed to negate the issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Except that at this point the Honda reflash doesn't completely quell the rev hang complaints. Point being, I'd rather have a throttle cable than the Si's still quirky DBW.

 

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"to = too" ?

why? fighter jets (F-16 & F-18, etc, etc, so on and so forth) are FBW. and your point is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm personally not a fan of it, i don't like the feel of the response compared to a mechanical throttle body. i haven't ever flown a fighter jet so maybe the response is a little better, I'll have to take your word on that.

thanks for the spelling correction

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DontBlink &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both cars are really nice looking

i really like the SI sedan, to bad its drive by wire.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto x 10

&lt;&lt;hates drive by wire with a passion. my buddies VW R32 used to **** me off.

also the engine bay on that SI is so damn tiny. would suck trying to do any work on that thing.

...and the R can nevAR lose

 

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understood, but alot of cars, performance cars can have a reflash performed. I think this is a moot point since a buttload of cars are now DBW and can be reflashed to negate the issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are DBW out of necessity for items such as traction control and VSS.

This is why its the future in almost all cars. Don't get me started on cars forcing you to turn off VSS every time you get into them.

Oh, and how could a fighter jet have a throttle cable?

 

Love the cars. Might wanna block out plates on both cars.

 

is it possible to "convert" a car from DBW to cable throttle?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's the way things are and or going to be. better to accept it now and learn to compensate.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like I said, it's about the implementation. I don't recall any complaints about the NSX's DBW, going back 15 years. I've driven a couple and didn't notice anything different than the response a throttle cable would provide.

Honda played a little trickery with the Si to improve its emissions and/or fuel economy. TBH I can't be bothered to read up on it again to verify which.

 

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thanks for the spelling correction
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no problem, any time. I aim to please.

If domestics can overcome or even replace the digital issue then I'm sure Honda tunerscan or will soon follow. I understand preference, hell I love the feeling but it's not the end of the world.

 

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If domestics can overcome or even replace the digital issue then I'm sure Honda tunerscan or will soon follow. I understand preference, hell I love the feeling but it's not the end of the world.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah it is...Ill never drive a car thats DBW

&lt;&lt;who isnt sure if the gf's MR is DBW or not??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it possible to "convert" a car from DBW to cable throttle?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. The Ford mustang gt has at least 1 aftermarket option I know of.

 

looks good.
si coupe looks good.