so lets say i actually had the money, does anyone kno what the process is to bring the new CT-R over here and how much it would cost?


thanx

 

The emissions and safety parts will be the hardest parts. Since the type r does not even have a close USDM counterpart.

I was also under the impression that cars have to be crash tested etc. I remember motorex or someone else having to personally buy 5 vehicles soley for the purpose of crashing them.

 

i poked around for this info, but how much better is the type r than the si? I've only seen pics of the type R. What does it have that the Si doesn't have. Same K20 engine? more torque? More HP?

I just looked at specs for the Euro CTR and it shows 200hp... hmm

If a type R was made available here, how much more exclusive would it be than the Si? Or would it just replace the Si.

 

Same **** its just cool to have a type r badge !

http://www.redh.co.uk/index.ht...ilMGP

 

The 07CTR is way lighter, and has a lot more features than the Si... I've looked extensively at this car and have even communicated with Honda UK about importing one. They responded by saying while the modifications would not be too extensive, they could not give details as the car is not set to launch until march.

Also, crash testing is only required if you plan to drive it on public roads, or so i have been told. If it is just a show/race car... then you really wouldnt need to do much to it.

 

What features ?

I think the seat's look cooler with the nice red tone it has going for it shift **** etc
but i think they are pretty close power and handling wize !

 

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I think the seat's look cooler with the nice red tone it has going for it shift **** etc
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You're saying it's the same car? the USDM gets a coupe and the CTR is obviously a Hatchback. That's atleast one pretty big difference.

 

NO NO NO NO same power handling ya know the stuff that matters i am sorry you miss understood i should have been more specific !

 

Yep same car. Just better handling and less weight and maybe a few other perks. So if the car has the same engine setup why would it have to go through an emmissions test???

 

Well they are going to start selling the 217hp Civic Type-R Sedan in Japan in the spring.

You could probably definitely import one if you had the money (and it would take a lot less money outside the US due to stringent US import laws), but it will cost you and the car will be RHD.

Could it be sold in the US? My belief is yes, if the price point is right. But you must remember car manufacturers get higher margins in Europe and Asia than the US so the US would surely be the last to see it (at least after Japan and Britain due to their RHD).

Perhaps as a 2008 or 2009 model year this sedan will come to North America. Until then...well look at other options or hold your breath.

The Type-R hatchback in Europe is nothing more than a hatchback version of a HFP Civic Si in the states and not worth talking about.

You can probably approach the performance level of the Civic Type-R Sedan by redoing the exhaust & intake. Thats probably all they did.

 

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The same engine in one country can have different emissions equipment in other countries.

 

Don't forget it's REALLY ugly.

 

just be happy what you have that being offer to you....look at other countries that want USDM Si but can't.

 

The European Type-R has a cool interior and weighs less than our Si, but it has a fundamentally inferior rear suspension design. If I was you I would focus on lightening your Si and improving on the stock suspension.

Jon

EDIT: According to the official Euro Type-R website someone provided earlier in the thread it is a whopping 84 lbs. lighter than our coupe. Whoopdee-doo!!!

 

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Want to save some weight, get a DX

 

I'll bet my bottom dollar that by the time one manages to get the Type R to the states it's not gonna have 217 hp anymore. But that's just my hunch.

 

ok....

scenerio 1:

i pull up in a nice shiny Si to a meet/show/w.e, ppl stare, nice car.


scenerio 2:

i pull up in a nice shiny Type-R to a meet/show/w.e, i turn EVERYONE'S head.

its a type-r, it speaks for itself. dont get me wrong i am dissapointed that it has the same amount of power as the si but the bottom line is the type-r is JDM, the si aint.

 

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scenerio 1:

i pull up in a nice shiny Si to a meet/show/w.e, ppl stare, nice car.


scenerio 2:

i pull up in a nice shiny Type-R to a meet/show/w.e, i turn EVERYONE'S head.

its a type-r, it speaks for itself. dont get me wrong i am dissapointed that it has the same amount of power as the si but the bottom line is the type-r is JDM, the si aint.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's old saying "you already got an inch, now you want the whole yard"

 

Yeah but the Type R looks like a Ford Focus with larger wheels and a fatter ***. Not to dis or anything. I like the Type R badge and the fact that it signifies JDM, but I just think Honda could have done a little better with the new CTR hatch.

In all honesty I think the Sedan CTR looks better than the Coupe CTR.

 

the type r looks awesome, but coming from a 98 civic hatchback, a 94 firebird, and an 84 el camino all i can say is that i really like having a trunk!

 

I actually have some govt and private experience re this issue.

To bring a CTR (or any non-US spec car) into the US legally, it has to meet both US emissions requirements and vehicle occupant safety standards. The former wouldn't be too difficult to accomplish, but it would involve having to R&R all the engine components that aren't identical to US emissions components. (It's not enough that the car can be made to pass emissions testing; the components must be <U>identical</U> to those sold on US cars. (In years past, you could substitute similar components as necessary to pass the required testing. That's no longer permitted.)

You asked about the cost. It would be thousands. In fact, almost certainly it would be cheaper to remove the OEM engine & related component (cats, for example) replace everything as a single unit.

The occupant safety standards are, if anything, even more difficult to satisfy. In addition to replacing air bags, seats, belts, doors, steering componets, bumpers & related hardware, the importer (you) would have to convince the National Highway Traffic Safety Admininstration (a component of DOT), that the car's basic structure (floorpan, roof, windshied pillars, etc. ) conforms to US crash standards. It may not. So, in addition to all the hardware, you're also going to need a lawyer to prepare the required NHTSA/DOT documentation.

And, if this isn't enough to discourage you, current law also requires you to bring the vehicle into compliance within 30 days of the car's arrive in the US. If you intend to remove it from the landing facility (i.e., the dock area) to work on the car, you have to post a bond equivalent to the value of the car. Figure $25k. Then, if the vehicle isn't brought into compliance within 30 days, you forfeit the bond and the car is confiscated for removal or destruction. Cool, huh?

Tell you what: If you really have the hots for this car, I'll handle all this for you for $100k (plus the cost of the car and shipping, of course).

 

HOLY HELL!!

I think i'll pass. Numbers like suddenly make the Si more appealing than the Type R.

The only car from Japan I would even THINK about spending that kinda money on is an R34 GTR.