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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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i bought a civic HB with a b16a2 swapped in it already. Vtec is hitting at 6500rpm. OBD2 ecu. What flashes, or ecu is out there that causes this. Another thing is the rpm seems to be very high. Like if im going 80mph in 5th gear the rpm is at like 5-6krpm.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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vafc installed?

OBD1 ECU with jumper harness? probably has a chip in it

OR your tach is waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy off
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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tach is right. its a obd2, no vafc installed

i need someone to clear this up for me to:
if u have a vafc and u set ur vtec point at a certain level, and when u take that VAFC back out. will it stil l remain the same? or will it go back to stock vtec point
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Depending on what year civic it is your VSS and the tach signal could be off.

It's kinda hard to tell without more details
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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ive never ridden in a car with a b16 trans, but they say there gears are alot shorter.. there fore most people put ls 5th gears in there b16 trans
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vlc92189 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive never ridden in a car with a b16 trans, but they say there gears are alot shorter.. there fore most people put ls 5th gears in there b16 trans </TD></TR></TABLE>

What does that have to do with anything?
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cambopheonix56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What does that have to do with anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it has to do with the original posters question...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMDC5r4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another thing is the rpm seems to be very high. Like if im going 80mph in 5th gear the rpm is at like 5-6krpm. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crasian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it has to do with the original posters question...
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lol yeah thanks... was saying since the b16 gears are shorter.. most likley its normal for him to be at 5-6 grand when going 80 in fifth.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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80 should be like 4400 depending on what car its in. Tach is off.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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your tach is way off, you may not notice it in the lower RPMS. It could be that and your VTEC point is a little higher than stock, maybe 5500 or higher. So with your tach being off it makes it seem even higher, my tach is off slightly, at 80mph im at 5k with a type r tranmission.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Hey man.

I don't know much about how short the B16 trannys are as I've never done a whole lot of highway miles w/ a B16 tranny.

Though I've definitely done over 100 so I can say for sure that 6k RPM @ 80mph in 5th is insanity...
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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change the cluster
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crasian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it has to do with the original posters question...
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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&lt;type-r tranny inside with b16, 3,200-3,500k@70mph
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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In my car its at ~4250rpm at 80mph.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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yeah i was trying to remember what it was @80, i was thinking around 4,200
to poster, sounds like it's off 1,500 rpms. as to fix's, could be a cluster tach feed wire, distributor. i have a p30 obd1. i don't know how the obd2 is wired, if it goes to the ecm first then cluster. i'm guessing just a straight shot. first thing i would do is check connections at the distributor and cluster, then check the tach. wire for continuity
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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checked everything already. tach works perfectly the speed reading is right too. i tested with one of those police speed things they got sittin on the sidewalk lol. its an si tach/cluster btw
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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My usdm gsr tranny in a 98 hatch reads 4500rpm at 80mph.. My old jdm itr tranny read about 55-5600@80mph....
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fishnfst &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My usdm gsr tranny in a 98 hatch reads 4500rpm at 80mph.. My old jdm itr tranny read about 55-5600@80mph....</TD></TR></TABLE>

a gsr tranny should be 4000rpm @ 80mph
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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i think its a bad tach,not reading properly,or ecu messed up
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMDC5r4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like if im going 80mph in 5th gear the rpm is at like 5-6krpm. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Change your tach. I know the b16 tranny is short, but its not THAT short.
oh yea, i have a b16 tranny.
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Try borrowing an aftermarket tach from someone and see if it reads the same.
My D16Y8 goes 80mph@3500 RPM


Modified by trboeclpse98 at 8:59 AM 12/27/2006
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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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yeah the Si gears are 77mph is 4000 rpm in 5th gear. Either the tach is off or something in the tranny has been swapped out.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trboeclpse98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try borrowing an aftermarket tach from someone and see if it reads the same.
My D16Y8 goes 80mph@3500 RPM


Modified by trboeclpse98 at 8:59 AM 12/27/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ouch, long gears ftl.
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