Well it looks like the front of the car is bent back a little bit. There is a nice crease inside the engine bay and the hood closes over the top of the front bumper cover. Also the hood is bent and something on the alignment is realy out of wack. When I took the z10 bars off today, the passenger side was not loaded, and the driver side was fully loaded Oh well here are some pictures

Check out how the bumper support goes up toward the driver side


You can see it bent up and broke the headlight assembly


Here is one crease


Here is the other crease


Fawked up bumper cover


Bent up bumper support


How the hood closes over the bumper cover, passenger side


How the hood closes over the bumper cover, driver side


Some what back to normal


Craig - Who hopes the frame is not bent

 

ouch, good luck. i was told our frames bend easily.. good and bad. so it'll probably be able to be bent back. good luck. have it done right!

 

What bad luck.

What do you mean that the passenger side wasn't loaded while the driver side was?

Good luck in repairs.

 

that sucks! hope u get it all straightened up.

 

still doesn't look bad at all to me.

keep joor head up.

D

 

he's referring to the Z10 bars.... ie, the pass LCA is prolly bent toward the front of the car, unloading the said connecting bar.

D

 

Yeah, I'll think it will be alright.

Be glad its a frontal impact an not a side impact!

 

Hope you get everything straightened out.

 

That really sucks, I'm sorry. So I am assuming you will not go to your insurance company? Your rates will go up a lot, but in the long run depending on the damage it may be worth it.

 

dood, just call on us for help and you know we'll be down there in less than 3 hours. You know the normal routine. You guys do the work, I supervise and drink beer. As D said, keep your head up. It'll be good as new in no time and you'll be rollin' hatchcraps stunna style

 

With respect to a bent frame, how serious is it if it is a frontal impact? My car is in the bodyshop right now with a similar (but more forceful) impact. The bumper support and everything forward was badly damaged, but the radiator and back "seemed" completely intact. However, my AC lines were somehow cracked. ALignment was off, but the car was still driveable. What should I lookfor when I get my car back? How would I know if the LCAs are damaged, or the frame was irreparably harmed (the body shop is doing a 4-door alignment, but not touching the suspension)?

jason

 

Honestly, best way is to have a body shop you can trust do the inspection for you. They will not hesitate usually to tell you what needs to be fixed; if you use a garage that was recommended by your insurance company they may try to get by by fixing only stuff that is absolutely necessary.

 

Thank you

 

That sucks..hopefully the insurance thing will go smooth.
Btw, what kind of hydraulic jack is that? Looks sturdy.

 

A..penny do this for your own interest. Take diagional measurements on both sides ( maybe the right rear fender bolt and the left front one and vice-versa) and compare the differences. This will give you an idea of the damage involved! Also you do know that the frame may not be bent but that the inner apron was moved? Two totally different situations....

 

Sorry to see that Asspenny..... So are you still up for the EXPO?

 

Yahoo, that is good to hear. I'm taking it to acura tomorrow and have them see if they can align it and ask find out who has a frame rack to see if its straight.

Yea I'm going through my insurance company because it is totaly worth it. Not only for my car, but for the young lady I hit. I'm not going to screw some one else over because I want to save some money. It should not be too bad. I jut got a rate cut for turning 25, so if it goes back up, I see it as just having a discount for a little while.

AC jack Fawker is nice. I did have to trim it a bit with the dremal as it would not work properly other wise. Kinda sucks, spend 200 bux on a jack and you still have to mod it for it to work properly. But it kicks *** now

Hell Yeah... If the frame is not bent, or if it is and i can get it fixed, i'll sport the fawked up bumper cover with duct tape

Craig - Who will go to expo even with out a car


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Daym

Will

 

sux0rz bout j00r 'incident', but...


yshi - who actually likes battle scars

 

j00 got a ryde in 154 if you want...

Will
-who likes to play taxi driver

 

Get the alignment done and bring it like that.


Mattj

 

What do you mean the innner apron? Can you explain this a bit more in detail? Thanks...


jason

 

Hell Yeah...

Craig - Who needs to get his rims working too cause thouse are his track tires

 

Nice shorts Craig...
It doesn't look that bad buddy. USDM ITR fronts are all over the place.. You can get them for cheap.

 

Inner Apron is the piece that makes up the inside of the fender down towards the left and right baffles. Your car obviously has some sway in it which will need some frame time to correct. Bet on 2 hours of set-up time and 2-3 hours for pull. One pull down, one pull back and one pull at angle towards drivers side.

If there is damage to the aprons than more than likely the upper tie bar and possibly the whole core support is damaged. Damage to these cars can be extensive as they are made to collapse upon impact. As you pull more off you find additional damages. What looks superficial probably goes pretty far towards the inner structure of the car. Think of it like an earthquake shock wave traveling from the bumper towards the rear of the car. Damage at the front will be extensive yet each damage piece puts stress on other pieces which will damage, the damage getting lighter as you go deeper into the inner structure.

Regarding the apron, allot of times most of that kink will come out with frame pulls but will still need to be repaired. I would check the frame extensions where the bumper reinforcements bolt up- make sure that those frame rails don’t have any kinks in them. Take it to a qualified repair facility, check out prior framework, see what kind of frame equipment they use and look at the quality of work done on other cars.

Don’t try to skimp on the shop to save a couple bucks. Take it to a couple shops for estimates. This will give you some idea of what the car needs. Then you can compare it to the insurance appraiser's estimate to see how they are redlining the other estimates. You want this thing done right I presume.

Good Luck and be involved with the repairs. nothing worse than getting your car repaired only to have it pull to one side or constantly replacing tires because of bad frame work- not to mention water leaks around windshields etc.

HTH


[Modified by CKDC2, 7:29 AM 5/13/2002]