auto to manual swap
for a 97 honda i will need the pedal setup,tranny,hard line for clutch fluid,the resivore, what else.......i need a 5 speed ecu but will it go in and work just plugging it in
not to thread jack but i have a question about auto to manuel, when it is all said and done well the car look and feel like it did if it had come from the factory a manuel? I going to buy a 2000 auto hatch, and want to do an h series swap and am wondering if i should even bother buying an auto car or pay more money for an older hatch that is already manuel.
bump if i put the AXLES,TRANNY FLYWHEEL ,LINKAGE,TRANNY MOUNT WWHAT ELSE WILL I HAVE TO HOOK UP IN ORDER TO DRIVE WILL I NEED A 5 SPEED ECU??????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cviccoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for a 97 honda i will need the pedal setup,tranny,hard line for clutch fluid,the resivore, what else.......i need a 5 speed ecu but will it go in and work just plugging it in</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure it's been answered somewhere in the post but I simply don't feel like reading them all.
The 5 speed ECU will plug right up. If you have a 96-98 EX, it's a D16Y8 and though I don't know which ECU it is, has to be the same ECU. A D16Y7 (from a 96-98 DX) ECU will work but the fuel mapping will be horribly off.
What I'm trying to say is you can't just classify it as a "Manual 5 speed ECU for a '97 civic" - you have to base it on your trim level.
So if you have a DX then you need a manual DX ECU, and if you have an EX you need a manual EX ECU, so on and so forth. As for what year it doesn't have to be '97 but it does have to be OBD-IIa ('96-'98). Any manual ECU in those years for your trim civic will work
.
Other OBD-IIa ECUs will plug right up but won't have the proper fuel and ignition tables (will give you shitty power, and shitty MPG).
As far as parts go...
- Hardlines for the clutch including master and slave clutch cylinders
- Clutch pedal
- Manual ECU
- Manual D series transmission
- Shift linkage
- Shifter assembly
- Manual Starter?
I believe that is all. You have to do some EXTREMELY light wiring such as "jumping" or overriding the switch to make it think it's always in park and wiring up the reverse light sensor and such. It's all explained in most writeups.
Axles will be the same - I think.
I also think you need a manual starter though I'm not sure (I know they're different).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cviccoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump if i put the AXLES,TRANNY FLYWHEEL ,LINKAGE,TRANNY MOUNT WWHAT ELSE WILL I HAVE TO HOOK UP IN ORDER TO DRIVE WILL I NEED A 5 SPEED ECU??????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Get the five speed ECU. I think it will run without one but it's not a part I would skimp out on...
I'm sure it's been answered somewhere in the post but I simply don't feel like reading them all.
The 5 speed ECU will plug right up. If you have a 96-98 EX, it's a D16Y8 and though I don't know which ECU it is, has to be the same ECU. A D16Y7 (from a 96-98 DX) ECU will work but the fuel mapping will be horribly off.
What I'm trying to say is you can't just classify it as a "Manual 5 speed ECU for a '97 civic" - you have to base it on your trim level.
So if you have a DX then you need a manual DX ECU, and if you have an EX you need a manual EX ECU, so on and so forth. As for what year it doesn't have to be '97 but it does have to be OBD-IIa ('96-'98). Any manual ECU in those years for your trim civic will work
.Other OBD-IIa ECUs will plug right up but won't have the proper fuel and ignition tables (will give you shitty power, and shitty MPG).
As far as parts go...
- Hardlines for the clutch including master and slave clutch cylinders
- Clutch pedal
- Manual ECU
- Manual D series transmission
- Shift linkage
- Shifter assembly
- Manual Starter?
I believe that is all. You have to do some EXTREMELY light wiring such as "jumping" or overriding the switch to make it think it's always in park and wiring up the reverse light sensor and such. It's all explained in most writeups.
Axles will be the same - I think.
I also think you need a manual starter though I'm not sure (I know they're different).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cviccoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump if i put the AXLES,TRANNY FLYWHEEL ,LINKAGE,TRANNY MOUNT WWHAT ELSE WILL I HAVE TO HOOK UP IN ORDER TO DRIVE WILL I NEED A 5 SPEED ECU??????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Get the five speed ECU. I think it will run without one but it's not a part I would skimp out on...
the reservoir is different from the master/salve cylinder right?
i would def. get the correct ecu
it's based off of the trim of your motor, (i think that's what youi meant)
lx/dx are mainly the same
i would def. get the correct ecu
it's based off of the trim of your motor, (i think that's what youi meant)
lx/dx are mainly the same
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dafuzzbudd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reservoir is different from the master/salve cylinder right?
i would def. get the correct ecu
it's based off of the trim of your motor, (i think that's what youi meant)
lx/dx are mainly the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
The reservoir is right on top of the master cylinder. The slave cylinder is right onto of the tranny...very accessible if you look where the block code is..and just look diagonally left of that...very noticeable - you can see the black cap for the bleeder valve very easily
i would def. get the correct ecu
it's based off of the trim of your motor, (i think that's what youi meant)
lx/dx are mainly the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
The reservoir is right on top of the master cylinder. The slave cylinder is right onto of the tranny...very accessible if you look where the block code is..and just look diagonally left of that...very noticeable - you can see the black cap for the bleeder valve very easily
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