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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Im building a head this winter and I need some input on a set off springs/retainers...I am planning to get stage 2 crower camshafts w/ the forced induction option and I dont know if there is much of an advantage to any specific springs/retainers...I am trying to stay on a budget and I know that the Crower, Buddy club, and Skunk 2 are a few that are around $400 for a package...My car is a 97 integra w/ a b18b (non-vtec)...any input would be appreciated
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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DO NOT BY CROWER CAMS!!!
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We need to know what cams you are going to run so we can help you pick out springs. Portflows are race proven and not the most expensive. You aren't gonna wanna run a really stiff spring.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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MazWorks or Full Race cams......
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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crane and ferrea are top notch
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: which valvesprings/retainers are best? (kshgl87)

I was also interested in a valve train.

One of my N/A buddies swears by Portflow, but I heard that SuperTech was better for Turbo cars. True?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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alright well if you would recommend that I dont use crower cams then can someone tell me a set of turbo cams that isnt going to cost me too much? cause im lost im having a hard time finding many cams for this motor that are cheap.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshgl87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im building a head this winter and I need some input on a set off springs/retainers...I am planning to get stage 2 crower camshafts w/ the forced induction option and I dont know if there is much of an advantage to any specific springs/retainers...I am trying to stay on a budget and I know that the Crower, Buddy club, and Skunk 2 are a few that are around $400 for a package...My car is a 97 integra w/ a b18b (non-vtec)...any input would be appreciated</TD></TR></TABLE>

Non-vtec crower cams are great. I would go with 404 NA cams.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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thanx for the feedback...

*FUCATYPER* by NA do u mean Naturally aprirated? the 404 is their 3/4 race setup correct? I didnt specify but im boosted and not sure if you are saying that they would be better over their forced induction cams...(Im looking for something that can be daily driven and is not too crazy w/ a crap idle.)
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Yeah, I want new cams for my b18b1 too. I already got manley dual valve springs and titanium retainers. I wanna know If i should just sell my head, and not get the cams, and get a vtec head, probably stock, or If Id make more power non vtec with cams. Btw my car is turboed
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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^x2^ for that
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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i have no personal experience, but i have heard alot about supertech, and thats what im probably gonna go with this year with my 600whp 2.0L sleeved build
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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anyone ever heard of si performance? in my old head i had ferrea valve train, in the new head, i chose si performance valve train. their dual springs (which i run on both sides of course) have the same coil bind pressure as ferrea. but also, the intake valve is undercut, as well as supertech. also anything that is lighter in the valve train is a plus
what i have always been told is any work that is done within half an inch of the valve seat in the combustion chamber is where headwork is valuable.


Modified by redboost10 at 5:46 PM 12/14/2006
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow poke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DO NOT BY CROWER CAMS!!!
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You have anything to back that up with, especially their camshafts for the turbocharged applications?

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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+1 for Supertech
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow poke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DO NOT BY CROWER CAMS!!!
You have been warned

We need to know what cams you are going to run so we can help you pick out springs. Portflows are race proven and not the most expensive. You aren't gonna wanna run a really stiff spring.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think he was confused most people shy away from turbo cams on the vtec motors because they arent usually worth it. stock cams for for 99% of the people.

non vtec crower cams are good from what ive seen
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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I have the SI valves in the past and the valve broke in half.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bjorn20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have anything to back that up with, especially their camshafts for the turbocharged applications?</TD></TR></TABLE>

theres a few posts online where their cams actually snap in half while spinning in the motor.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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I have'nt had a problem with buddyclub valve springs or Omni! I will let you know how the buddyclub valve springs hold up on my lsvtec turbo project that should be finished soon. My advise would be to stick with reputable companies and listen to people who's had problems with a certain products/companies.......
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