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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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i have to replace the thermostat on my F22B1 and i was wondering if the Mugen thermostat will work. if it does work, is installation any different from an ordinary OEM replacement?? thanks
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Sure why not? I'll bet that having that T-stat over a genuine Honda t-stat will gain at least 50 hp.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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no its not even that, i work for honda i can get a thermostat 10% over cost if i want, im just want to try something new. my cars not highly modified at all, but im just asking theoritically for the most part.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NJ JDM CL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... but im just asking theoritically for the most part.
</TD></TR></TABLE>No difference in performance, except from your wallet being lighter.

Don't know whether to expect the Mugen to last longer, but I bet it doesn't?
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Some things are made to stay OEM and i think a theromostat is one.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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is this for a f22? becuase i dont believe that made one for the f22b
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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yea thats a good point. which one lasting longer is a concern of mine. because i plan keeping my CL for a while.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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t-stat is mainly for start up , after your motor is warmed up the tstat is basicly pointless . correct me if im wrong.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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^^^^u wrong...t stat controls the flow of coolant to your motor....when the pressure gets high enough it opens up allowing for coolant to flow....
btw i believe some thermostats(maybe mugen are set to open at lower temp....which could be a good thing if you going to be running that bich hot
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92accordh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">t-stat is mainly for start up , after your motor is warmed up the tstat is basicly pointless . correct me if im wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>You're WRONG...

After the engine warms up, the T-stat constantly adjusts itself within its range to keep the engine temperature where it belongs. If it just stayed open, your car would run too cold.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by as_fast_as_u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^^u wrong...t stat controls the flow of coolant to your motor....when the pressure gets high enough it opens up allowing for coolant to flow....</TD></TR></TABLE>U wrong too... T-stat acts based on temperature, not pressure.

Yes, you can find T-stats that control to a lower temperature, but that's not the way to fix an overheating engine. If the cooling system isn't working right, then getting a T-stat that's set to a lower temperature is a poor band-aid.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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i opted for the OEM replacement one anways. i bought one from honda for $11 with my employee discount. maybe if i do an H22 swap i would get little accessories like that. probaly not worth it with my tired old F22.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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when temp rises pressure of expanded liquid allows the t stat to openup....i dunno where u come with this temp bs....temp by itself will never open that tstat up, unless it melts it down completely
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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So then I guess the test procedure in the Helm book won't work. You put the T-stat in a pot with a thermometer & heat it up, watch it open. That procedure produces high temperature without high pressure.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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he he he, OMG, that's so true. There is so much BS out there. Jim is correct, temp is the switch, at least for stats.

Temp will cause pressure to go up, just like in the tires. But I always thought that pressure causes temp to go up also. I was always taught they go hand in hand. But maybe not. At any rate, stats are dependent upon temp to open. ...

I'm still wondering if pressure will cause temps to go up. Still seems to me like it will. I mean isn't that what happens in an air compressor. As the PSI increases the temps go up and you need a water trap sooner or later, from all the condensation of the high temps

Anyone know ?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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This should be used on race only applications, read up on them in the ITR forum, they go into a detailed discussion of OEM vs Mugen
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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a different temp tstat will throw a CEL too, it did on mine
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