Ok Im going to be entering some Auto X and Time Attack events starting early next year. My question is:

What sway bars are recommended? I daily the car also.
Would Si OEM Bars work/fit?
What is needed to install a fron bar? Bar, End Links, Brackets...anything else? FLCA? Anything?

TIA for any and all help.

 

99-00 Si sway bar works great. You'll need Si lower controls arms as well as the forks for the shocks to make it work.

 

If you add a front sway-bar without adding a rear bar, you will severely increase the vehicles tendency to under-steer...

 

im in the same predicament you are in....learn from my mistakes, caz there things i wish i did differently.....go with asr's subframe kit, very nice piece, and get progress suspensions 22mm sway bar, its like the itr 22mm that i have except it mounts closer to the wheels adding more stiffness than the itr, you should also get new rear lower control arm bushings while you are at it, i just opted for the bling and got omni lca's, my car i dont run a front sway, but i did buy a 24mm from hatchbacks like ours, i have a 96 cx.....it is the kit that you can install of cars that didn't come stock with front sways.....my car still understeers, so im not putting on my front sway, untill i mess with the tire pressure and front camber a little more, learn from my mistakes......

 

it's already given that he'll get a rear sway. It's the front that most have questions on when it comes to hatches

 

yea, but i bet he didn't know that the progress mounted differently than the oem ones, and is overall a lot better, just get a bar that is smaller than your rear or close to it, and mess around with camber and tire pressure, you could get it pretty neutral

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R-Lug &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's already given that he'll get a rear sway....</TD></TR></TABLE>

What makes you say that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What makes you say that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Plural?

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What sway bars are recommended? I daily the car also.
Would Si OEM Bars work/fit?
What is needed to install a fron bar? Bar, End Links, Brackets...anything else? FLCA? Anything?

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Sounds like he's talking about the front and rear Si bars.

So, for the front Si bar you need the bar, end links, mounts, FLCAs, and shock forks off of an Si.

For a rear Si bar, you need the bar, end links, mounts, and brackets (#30 in the pic below)

 

Thanks everyone with the help so far. I forgot to mention I already have RLCAs SRR Brand. I was also looking a the ASR Kit and it seems to be a good starting point for the rear.

Now the front I read that I can use EH/HX FLCAs with a different end link and it will work. Im guessing this is easier since I wouldnt have to source the Lower Strut fork. IS this true of do I need the fork with the EX/HX Units also.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z4k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now the front I read that I can use EH/HX FLCAs with a different end link and it will work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have also "heard" this was true. I've never actually seen it in action. People have told me you can use DC Integra GSR/ITR front end-links (#6 in pic below) because they have a "ball-joint" connection on the bar side, and a "two bushing" connection on the LCA end. If someone can confirm, that would be cool...

 

Or you could just run an EX sway bar instead of the Si bar. IMO it would be better anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or you could just run an EX sway bar instead of the Si bar. IMO it would be better anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Better why? BAck it up please.

 

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Better why? BAck it up please.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's smaller. Bigger front sway bar = more understeer, bigger rear sway bar = more oversteer. I think that the Si front sway is too much. It's just an opinion though. I'm running no front sway bar with a 22mm ITR rear bar on my EJ Coupe.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's smaller. Bigger front sway bar = more understeer, bigger rear sway bar = more oversteer. I think that the Si front sway is too much. It's just an opinion though. I'm running no front sway bar with a 22mm ITR rear bar on my EJ Coupe. </TD></TR></TABLE> me too, like i said, i still have to mess around with tire pressure and camber, and i think i can get her pretty neutral without a front bar

 

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It's smaller. Bigger front sway bar = more understeer, bigger rear sway bar = more oversteer. I think that the Si front sway is too much. It's just an opinion though. I'm running no front sway bar with a 22mm ITR rear bar on my EJ Coupe. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Do i still have to upgrade the forks? What do i need to run the EX front sway bar?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im in the same predicament you are in....learn from my mistakes, caz there things i wish i did differently.....go with asr's subframe kit, very nice piece, and get progress suspensions 22mm sway bar, its like the itr 22mm that i have except it mounts closer to the wheels adding more stiffness than the itr, you should also get new rear lower control arm bushings while you are at it, i just opted for the bling and got omni lca's, my car i dont run a front sway, but i did buy a 24mm from hatchbacks like ours, i have a 96 cx.....it is the kit that you can install of cars that didn't come stock with front sways.....my car still understeers, so im not putting on my front sway, untill i mess with the tire pressure and front camber a little more, learn from my mistakes...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

omg dude....wth are you talking about??? if you cant give accurate advice, dont give any. next thing you know, this guys gonna go buy buncha stuff he cant use.
first off... the progress bar is the only EK sway bar on the market that CANNOT be used in compliance with any other tie bars. which means, you cannot use it with the asr kit. just because you hear great things about all these parts doesnt mean you can just stick em all together.
i had the progress bar on my ek for a year and a half...i always spoke well of it, always loved it....until it started tearing my subframe. i was in shock because until that point i was convinced of progress' craftsmanship and design. im not using the asr/itr setup, and am still paranoind because i have a welded subframe.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beav &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omg dude....wth are you talking about??? if you cant give accurate advice, dont give any. next thing you know, this guys gonna go buy buncha stuff he cant use.
first off... the progress bar is the only EK sway bar on the market that CANNOT be used in compliance with any other tie bars. which means, you cannot use it with the asr kit. just because you hear great things about all these parts doesnt mean you can just stick em all together.
i had the progress bar on my ek for a year and a half...i always spoke well of it, always loved it....until it started tearing my subframe. i was in shock because until that point i was convinced of progress' craftsmanship and design. im not using the asr/itr setup, and am still paranoind because i have a welded subframe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What do you mean welded subframe? you mean it is reinforced where the Sway bar brackets would bolt to the Subframe? If I run the ASR/ITR Combo I can do without welding it correct?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z4k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you mean welded subframe? you mean it is reinforced where the Sway bar brackets would bolt to the Subframe? If I run the ASR/ITR Combo I can do without welding it correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He meant that his sub-frame was torn by the old sway-bar. He then got the tear welded up to fix the problem.

You don't have to weld your sub-frame unless it's been torn...

 

thats new info to me, sorry about that, i didn't know the asr kit and progress kit weren't compatible, but i also could have told you not to put the progress sway bar on you car without any reinforcement........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by young noob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats new info to me, sorry about that, i didn't know the asr kit and progress kit weren't compatible, but i also could have told you not to put the progress sway bar on you car without any reinforcement........</TD></TR></TABLE>

no you couldnt have told me that. thats exactly what im saying.... the progress bar is constructed in a way that doesnt allow you to put reinforcement anywhere because they tell you that it acts as self reinforcement due to how the bracketry is set up.

 

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no you couldnt have told me that. thats exactly what im saying.... the progress bar is constructed in a way that doesnt allow you to put reinforcement anywhere because they tell you that it acts as self reinforcement due to how the bracketry is set up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no i will still say i could have told you that..... self reinforcement is a some bullshit, how is it going to self reinforce itself just caz it has a new bracket configuration, in a car that has a history of tearing its subframe, is not going to because of its new brackets, those brackets aren't going to decrease the stress load across a wider area, at least thats what they wanted you to think, but if you thought this would work, wouldn't you think other manufacuteres would have followed too......but em1's....99-00 si's do have stronger subframes and may be able to take the progress bar effectively, caz thats where i saw it on the car that i was impressed with but who knows....maybe you have another smartass comment waiting for this one lets find out

 

yo whats with you people on this ****? always out to get someone. and dont flip out on me because of some **** that progress said. im giving you people information from experience...something you inconsiderate ***** juct cant seem to be thankful for.
so when you figure out a way to reinforce something that already utilizes all mounting points, then you can talk like youre some big ****.
and yes the brackets will spread stress load over a wider area...and im willing to bet you dont even know what that means. congratdulations on reading it from what everyone else says. maybe if you actually had the progress bar or even seen in person how it is set up, you wouldnt talk out your ***.
so relax yourself.