Ok I have a 91 And thinking about a cpl of difrent ways to build it..... I want to get some idea on what block to use...

Any ideas would be nice......

Trying to get at least 200 to the wheels.....

 

Have fun finding a B17. Go B18a ls/v or boosted.

 

you could do that with your B17, but considering how cheap and readily avaliable the B18 is, I would deffinatly get a B18. cams, intake, exhaust and a good tune should easily get you to your 200 hp goal. Maybe some high comp. pistons, but it should be fairly simple. Also, nitrous is an easy way to make power, and 200 is pretty easy with nitrous.

 

yea the best and easiest way is the b18 , i gotta b17 down here in hawaii is really really rare~!~

 

complete head/block...are rear???

thats crazy because my homie had two b17 heads sitting in his garage...

 

that is why I want the b17.. Rare... I'm kinda torn between the 2 with Boosting or NA.. I'll probly go NA first and build the motor then if I'm happy with that roll on with the boost....

As far as reaching the 200 mark anyone have a idea as to where to start...???

NO NOS

 

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A B17 head is the samething as a B16 head (PR3).

 

if you want 200whp get a b18 block. you'll have an easier time with more displacment.

 

i dont think its the same?
b16 is 1.6
b17 is 1.7
the compression is different

rated heads r

b16,17a,18c = the 17 is a little better then the 16 but not good as the b18c head

its like the middle head...but hard to find.~ ......16 is so easy to get and so is the 18c (have 1 sitting at my house) well in hawaii it seems like that.~

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by in10ceCiviC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think its the same?
b16 is 1.6
b17 is 1.7
the compression is different

rated heads r

b16,17a,18c = the 17 is a little better then the 16 but not good as the b18c head

its like the middle head...but hard to find.~ ......16 is so easy to get and so is the 18c (have 1 sitting at my house) well in hawaii it seems like that.~ </TD></TR></TABLE>

b16 and b17 blocks are the same. smaller than other b series blocks. the difference in displacement comes from the stroke.

b16/17/18c heads are all pr3 castings. so there's really no way to tell them apart

 

Where could I find some parts for the b17a1 I have it in a 93 gs-r integra and I want to go na that way when I rape a v8 he cant use the term force induction

 

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you're not raping a v8 unless you boost it. anyway, b16 parts will work.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdeadman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have fun finding a B17. Go B18a ls/v or boosted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have 2! they're both spoken for though so unfortunatly i can't sell one... ones in the 92 GSR turbo, ones the originl out of it just needing ringlands...

uhh... the B17 though can only be rebuilt to a B16 using aftermarket parts... i have a paper around somewhere here with all the specs fo the B16's, B17A1, B18A/B and B18C1/5 if i find it i'll come back in and post all the info i can on the crank stroke, rod length, cylinder bore piston heights and stuff... gond only knows where it is though i just moved out fo state and alot of stuff is still in boxes... but reguardless i can say fi you want to fully build it, you have to use B16 parts, and you'll basically be using the B17 block just to say you have a B17... the crank stroke is longer and the rods are shorter, it is not possible to mix and match rods and cranks from any number of B engines to get back to a 1.7... i know cause when i did my GSR i really wanteds to stay at a GSr and spent multiple hours on the phone with Eagle and Scat ( i used to work at Keystone automotive as a salesperson so i also got paid to do it cause i did tech calls haha! )

p.s. you're not gonna rape a boosted V8 either i.e. 03/04 Ford Mustang Cobra... i know, cause i have one and a few weeks ago i made an EK coupe with a fully built H22 turbo runnign 22psi look like an idiot, no where from launch to finish was it ever close... wait let me say he was onlya half a car behind in first cause i was off and on the gas trying to get traction

 

No I like v8 i have a 2000 dakota with the 4.7l in it and I can stay with newer gs-r and my boddies mustang in it!!!! WHat trany would be good to use on it? I would like to use my ls trany but im not sure how well it would run

 

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im not sure what that has to do with anything, but ok.

if you have a 93 gsr keep the stock tranny

 

why is the stock tranny good or just rare like the motor

 

because it has shorter gears than an ls

 

o see I was thinking about putting a ls tranny on it would that help it or hert it

 

acually i seened alot of b17 for sale lately but to bad i cant buy one look on the for thread

 

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it would suck

 

Oh. well the hell with that then. Would type R cams help out the motor because my friend just blow his motor and I want his cams if there would help

 

keep the b17 tranny if your going N/A or LS for boost. B17 tranny is the shortest B series tranny i belive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91dags &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that is why I want the b17.. Rare... I'm kinda torn between the 2 with Boosting or NA.. I'll probly go NA first and build the motor then if I'm happy with that roll on with the boost....

As far as reaching the 200 mark anyone have a idea as to where to start...???

NO NOS </TD></TR></TABLE>

if you want to reach the 200 whp mark quickly and easily, then get a turbo. don't waste your money on "n/a mods." to reach 200 hp n/a you'll most likely have to raise the compression ratio and get bigger cams. even with that, 200 whp is a high goal for a n/a b-series motor; this is regardless whether you get a b17a or b18a.

i'd start out with the b18a, with a vtec tranny if possible (b17/b16/b18c5 have the shortest gearing i beleive). get a bolt-on turbo kit such as the greddy one, and you'll quickly fly past the 200 hp mark. a vtec tranny will make you fly through the gears and greatly improve acceleration, if you get traction (lsd and good tires are a good idea to improve traction). this combo will be faster than pretty much any n/a b16 or b18a combo you can think of

 

everyone please keep in mind the 92/93 GSR YS1's are not a limited slip transmission... that was the only downside... although i think it's geared very well when i was running mine at 7psi...

 

What was done to the motor? was it stock or have internal work. I want to put about a 11 or 12 to 1 comp but I dont want to have to run race fuel what aould you guys shugest