randomly outta no where sometimes my car dsnt start when i turn it. it wouldnt even crank, it would just click and stop, then id have to do it over and over and over and over until randomly it starts. sometimes it takes 2 tries. others it takes 20+ tries. my battery is aftermarket autozone battery and my starter is OEM... wondering which option is the problem so i wont waste money replacing one thing when its not that issue..


Modified by JDM As It Gets at 12:59 AM 12/19/2006

 

i had a similar problem and it turned out to be the crank sensor.

 

sounds like the starter next time u try to start the car before u turn the key hit your starter with a hammer and sometimes that works (hard but don't break it ) if not i am 90% sure u need to buy a starter i just replaced mine little while ago but i got away like 1year by doing that

 

This is usually caused by a loose connection at the battery or starter terminals, or a weak battery, possibly caused by a weak or failing alternator. Start with the connections, its free and can possibly be your problem.

 

Most likely the starter needs to be rebuilt because the contacts inside have worn down. You can get a rebuild kit for Denso starters from Toyota for about $20 (Honda doesn't sell it separately). There's a thread on here somewhere with the Toyota part number if you search for it.

I had the same problem, rebuilt mine with the parts from Toyota and it has worked flawlessly for well over a year now.

 

Modified by JDM As It Gets at 1:00 AM 12/19/2006

 

mine reads 13.1 when off

 

Mine did the same thing a few times about a week ago when it was really cold (probably about 20*F), after changing the clutch and tranny. It would click once when I tried to start it, and not crank. I loosened the starter bolts, adjusted the starter, and retightened and it started fine. Then it did it again and I hit it with a hammer, not very hard, and it started again. Both times were really cold. Now it hasn't done that since and starts perfectly. Next time it does that, hit the starter with a nice firm tap but don't actually like swing at it or anything and see if that starts it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mine did the same thing a few times about a week ago when it was really cold (probably about 20*F), after changing the clutch and tranny. It would click once when I tried to start it, and not crank. I loosened the starter bolts, adjusted the starter, and retightened and it started fine. Then it did it again and I hit it with a hammer, not very hard, and it started again. Both times were really cold. Now it hasn't done that since and starts perfectly. Next time it does that, hit the starter with a nice firm tap but don't actually like swing at it or anything and see if that starts it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the hammer trick works, then it's most definitely the contacts inside the starter that are worn down. Rebuilding the starter with new contacts as I described above will permanently fix the problem.

 

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If the hammer trick works, then it's most definitely the contacts inside the starter that are worn down. Rebuilding the starter with new contacts as I described above will permanently fix the problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Where do you get that Toyota rebuild kit, and how is it that Toyota starter internals work on a Honda starter, or are they made by the same company? (I have no clue how it is on the inside because I've never taken one apart, but I'm just wondering)

 

There's a thread on here somewhere with the Toyota part number you need to order. You'll need to search for it, I don't know where it is. It's for a Denso starter, used by both Honda and Toyota.

 

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Its on Team-Integra

 

it could also be bad grounds your motor need atleast two good ground. cuz I have had a problem like this & thought it was the starter it turned out to bad ground connections.

 

ic thanks 4 all the info . my grounds are good. ill try the starter trick. hopefully its not battery after i buy a new starter.

 

First just try hitting the starter when it doesn't start, before buying a new one.

 

Mines had a similiar problem, last week, my car was cranking and cranking .. and then finally started .. then the next day .. it died .. wouldnt start .. so i brought my battery to autozone, let them check it, they said it was dead .. so they charged it for me .. which ALL was free .. .. then i put it back in my car .. everything works fine .. until 2-3 days later .. my car started that same cranking problem again .. i was like "WTF !!?!?!!?" .. so insted of waiting til the next morning .. and hoping to start it .. i brought it to autozone .. and let them check my starter, alternator, and battery .. they said everything is fine .. BUT ... the amp on my battery wasnt high enough to pull my amp(stereo amp) .. and suggested that i get a battery that has a higher amp shiit .. so i got the duarlast Gold .. which has like 645 amp power or whatever .. and for the last couple days .. nothing happened *knocks on wood* .. but yeah .. its probally the power of you battery ..

 

I am not a stereo guru, but if the stereo draws more power than the alternator is putting out, you need a higher output alternator rather than a battery with more cold cranking amps. I am sure the forum on audio would have good info. Maybe I should look over there to learn myself.

And to the OP, if you take a jumper wire from the battery to the top connection of the starter where the rubber boot is, it should turn the engine over (make sure your not in gear). The only reason it wouldn't would be if the battery was weak or connections are poor, or the starter/selenoid are shot.

 

Sam is right. Usually if you hear multiple clicks (Clicking sounds come from the solenoid of the starter) it would be a weak battery. One Click would mean the solenoid contacts are worn and should be replaced. But usually more cost effective to get a new part rather than rebuilding one. OEM is always good though and don't buy a rebuilt starter they have a random life span.

You need to check the battery itself to see if it is still good or is sulfated. Also try cleaning the top of the battery and clean the terminals and connections with water and baking soda. Check your alternator to see if it is putting out the correct amperage. You could also have a current draw somewhere. Most likely you need to do a full fielding test on your alternator and a complete current draw test.

 

Here is the thread, with pics from BSQ.

IMHO it would definitely be worth it to replace the contacts in the starter for $20 instead of buying a new starter for $225. I rebuilt mine nearly 18 months ago and it has worked flawlessly ever since.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1318816