Type R Cams
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Re: Type R Cams (that one doood)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by that one doood »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you will get 100hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think you're wrong............. more like 95 or so
i think you're wrong............. more like 95 or so
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look into the specs. i believe the gsr exhaust cam is the most aggressive. so my best guess is just use a type r intake cam. type r ecu will help... a little. i dont know the exact hp it will give you.
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Re: Type R Cams (Cyrus4g63)
It won't be much since the intake manifold is designed to be used with a gsr cams. But if you get a blox or skunk2 i.m. it'll make some decent gains. I got a friend who also just used a the type 2 intake cam, cause he was also told the gsr exhaust cam is almost identicle to the type r.
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Re: Type R Cams (all-mtr-teg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akandok »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look into the specs. i believe the gsr exhaust cam is the most aggressive. so my best guess is just use a type r intake cam. type r ecu will help... a little. i dont know the exact hp it will give you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It won't be much since the intake manifold is designed to be used with a gsr cams. But if you get a blox or skunk2 i.m. it'll make some decent gains. I got a friend who also just used a the type 2 intake cam, cause he was also told the gsr exhaust cam is almost identicle to the type r.</TD></TR></TABLE>
both of you are very stupid.. if you dont know answers to tech related questions dont post..
first off what year cams are you using the lift between the 97spec and the 01 spec cams are slightly different. ie the 01specs are slightly more aggressive..also timeing has a major effect on the responce you get from cams.. ie hope your not gonna put them inwith the stock cam gears.. even a cheap set of adjustable gears will make a differece in motor..
anyone that uses only upgrades one cam on their car is a MORON!! your basically to cheap to buy both.. with a thought like that in mind why dont you just downgrade toa d16 and call it a night
as for the comment with the intake manifold.. yes the gsr is more restrictive.. but it will make a significant difference in power.. i put an extra 13hp on a stock gsr with 97 spec itr cams with stock gearing..personally the blox intake manifold has a better write up as of now.. so if your planning to make more power going all motor that would be a good choice..
about the ecu the p73 ecu has better maps and thats all.. THE END
as for your overall hp gain from the mods you described it depends on your motor.. compression and timing has a big effect on all those things
good luck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It won't be much since the intake manifold is designed to be used with a gsr cams. But if you get a blox or skunk2 i.m. it'll make some decent gains. I got a friend who also just used a the type 2 intake cam, cause he was also told the gsr exhaust cam is almost identicle to the type r.</TD></TR></TABLE>
both of you are very stupid.. if you dont know answers to tech related questions dont post..
first off what year cams are you using the lift between the 97spec and the 01 spec cams are slightly different. ie the 01specs are slightly more aggressive..also timeing has a major effect on the responce you get from cams.. ie hope your not gonna put them inwith the stock cam gears.. even a cheap set of adjustable gears will make a differece in motor..
anyone that uses only upgrades one cam on their car is a MORON!! your basically to cheap to buy both.. with a thought like that in mind why dont you just downgrade toa d16 and call it a night
as for the comment with the intake manifold.. yes the gsr is more restrictive.. but it will make a significant difference in power.. i put an extra 13hp on a stock gsr with 97 spec itr cams with stock gearing..personally the blox intake manifold has a better write up as of now.. so if your planning to make more power going all motor that would be a good choice..
about the ecu the p73 ecu has better maps and thats all.. THE END
as for your overall hp gain from the mods you described it depends on your motor.. compression and timing has a big effect on all those things
good luck
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Re: Type R Cams (Cyrus4g63)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyrus4g63 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the help.
You guys have all the answers to all questions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, just search. it's been covered a thousand billion times!
You guys have all the answers to all questions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, just search. it's been covered a thousand billion times!
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
both of you are very stupid.. if you dont know answers to tech related questions dont post..
first off what year cams are you using the lift between the 97spec and the 01 spec cams are slightly different. ie the 01specs are slightly more aggressive..also timeing has a major effect on the responce you get from cams.. ie hope your not gonna put them inwith the stock cam gears.. even a cheap set of adjustable gears will make a differece in motor..
anyone that uses only upgrades one cam on their car is a MORON!! your basically to cheap to buy both.. with a thought like that in mind why dont you just downgrade toa d16 and call it a night
as for the comment with the intake manifold.. yes the gsr is more restrictive.. but it will make a significant difference in power.. i put an extra 13hp on a stock gsr with 97 spec itr cams with stock gearing..personally the blox intake manifold has a better write up as of now.. so if your planning to make more power going all motor that would be a good choice..
about the ecu the p73 ecu has better maps and thats all.. THE END
as for your overall hp gain from the mods you described it depends on your motor.. compression and timing has a big effect on all those things
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Take your own advice about not posting if you dont know...Just buying the ITR intake cam is NOT stupid...You can safely run that cam on the stock GSR valvetrain with no issues to 8k and make good power over stock...In fact people have been doing it for quite some time...You cannot simply throw in the exhaust cam on the GSR exhaust valve springs...Spring failure is possible even going to 8k on the exhaust side if you do this. So for the guy wanting a little more power but not wanting to remove his whole head for new set of valvesprings...the CTR/ITR intake cam is a good solution
both of you are very stupid.. if you dont know answers to tech related questions dont post..
first off what year cams are you using the lift between the 97spec and the 01 spec cams are slightly different. ie the 01specs are slightly more aggressive..also timeing has a major effect on the responce you get from cams.. ie hope your not gonna put them inwith the stock cam gears.. even a cheap set of adjustable gears will make a differece in motor..
anyone that uses only upgrades one cam on their car is a MORON!! your basically to cheap to buy both.. with a thought like that in mind why dont you just downgrade toa d16 and call it a night
as for the comment with the intake manifold.. yes the gsr is more restrictive.. but it will make a significant difference in power.. i put an extra 13hp on a stock gsr with 97 spec itr cams with stock gearing..personally the blox intake manifold has a better write up as of now.. so if your planning to make more power going all motor that would be a good choice..
about the ecu the p73 ecu has better maps and thats all.. THE END
as for your overall hp gain from the mods you described it depends on your motor.. compression and timing has a big effect on all those things
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Take your own advice about not posting if you dont know...Just buying the ITR intake cam is NOT stupid...You can safely run that cam on the stock GSR valvetrain with no issues to 8k and make good power over stock...In fact people have been doing it for quite some time...You cannot simply throw in the exhaust cam on the GSR exhaust valve springs...Spring failure is possible even going to 8k on the exhaust side if you do this. So for the guy wanting a little more power but not wanting to remove his whole head for new set of valvesprings...the CTR/ITR intake cam is a good solution
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Re: Type R Cams (boots)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Take your own advice about not posting if you dont know...Just buying the ITR intake cam is NOT stupid...You can safely run that cam on the stock GSR valvetrain with no issues to 8k and make good power over stock...In fact people have been doing it for quite some time...You cannot simply throw in the exhaust cam on the GSR exhaust valve springs...Spring failure is possible even going to 8k on the exhaust side if you do this. So for the guy wanting a little more power but not wanting to remove his whole head for new set of valvesprings...the CTR/ITR intake cam is a good solution</TD></TR></TABLE>
not my falt your to cheap to buy cam gears.. i know you can run a single upgrade cam for more power but its not the best for building a motor.. your taking the easy way out.. i bet you made your car reall pretty saving $150 on an exhaust cam..
to you
edit cams+gears
Modified by 87shytwhip at 4:07 PM 12/8/2006
not my falt your to cheap to buy cam gears.. i know you can run a single upgrade cam for more power but its not the best for building a motor.. your taking the easy way out.. i bet you made your car reall pretty saving $150 on an exhaust cam..
to youedit cams+gears
Modified by 87shytwhip at 4:07 PM 12/8/2006
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not my falt your to cheap to buy cam gears.. i know you can run a single upgrade cam for more power but its not the best for building a motor.. your taking the easy way out.. i bet you made your car reall pretty saving $150 on an exhaust cam.. to you</TD></TR></TABLE>
wtf are you talking about cam gears for...Are you retarded?? How are cam gears going to prevent the stock gsr exhaust valve springs from binding when using an ITR exhaust cam??? Hmm Ill just stop here I can see I'm dealing with someone who's missing a few
not my falt your to cheap to buy cam gears.. i know you can run a single upgrade cam for more power but its not the best for building a motor.. your taking the easy way out.. i bet you made your car reall pretty saving $150 on an exhaust cam..
to you</TD></TR></TABLE>wtf are you talking about cam gears for...Are you retarded?? How are cam gears going to prevent the stock gsr exhaust valve springs from binding when using an ITR exhaust cam??? Hmm Ill just stop here I can see I'm dealing with someone who's missing a few
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Re: Type R Cams (Cyrus4g63)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyrus4g63 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How good will type r cams work in a GSR with a a type R ecu
Good idea?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll focus on the ECU since the scuffle concerns the ITR cams. The ITR ECU will not operate your IAB (intake air bypass, aka butterflies) on the GSR intake manifold. The default position is for the butterflies to be open, which is the high RPM position. You will need an RPM switch to control the IAB or an aftermarket, single-runner intake manifold to eliminate the IAB. The aftermarket intake manifold is probably not best for just ITR cams.
Good idea?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll focus on the ECU since the scuffle concerns the ITR cams. The ITR ECU will not operate your IAB (intake air bypass, aka butterflies) on the GSR intake manifold. The default position is for the butterflies to be open, which is the high RPM position. You will need an RPM switch to control the IAB or an aftermarket, single-runner intake manifold to eliminate the IAB. The aftermarket intake manifold is probably not best for just ITR cams.
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">edit cams+gears homo</TD></TR></TABLE>
lmao wow..I can see what I'm saying is just passing beyond your head...Cam gears wont prevent the stock valvetrain of a gsr from binding on the exhaust side if you use an ITR exhaust cam...Do you understand this?? Is this too complicated??
lmao wow..I can see what I'm saying is just passing beyond your head...Cam gears wont prevent the stock valvetrain of a gsr from binding on the exhaust side if you use an ITR exhaust cam...Do you understand this?? Is this too complicated??
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
Ya, only rednecks and retirees are from FL...
...awe damn, I'm from FL, which am I then?
So how do cam gears change the fact that the exhaust side valve train can't handle the ITR exh cam?
Ya, funny he comes on talking all holier than thou, and then gets put in his place.
I have heard many times of Intake cam swaps only when using stock cams. I guess if you can't afford to buy valve train upgrades and both cams, you don't deserve to post on HondaTech, what a Floridian! lol I love Florida BTW.
...awe damn, I'm from FL, which am I then?
So how do cam gears change the fact that the exhaust side valve train can't handle the ITR exh cam?
Ya, funny he comes on talking all holier than thou, and then gets put in his place.
I have heard many times of Intake cam swaps only when using stock cams. I guess if you can't afford to buy valve train upgrades and both cams, you don't deserve to post on HondaTech, what a Floridian! lol I love Florida BTW.
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Re: Type R Cams (Sam92Teg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, only rednecks and retirees are from FL...
...awe damn, I'm from FL, which am I then?
So how do cam gears change the fact that the exhaust side valve train can't handle the ITR exh cam?
Ya, funny he comes on talking all holier than thou, and then gets put in his place.
I have heard many times of Intake cam swaps only when using stock cams. I guess if you can't afford to buy valve train upgrades and both cams, you don't deserve to post on HondaTech, what a Floridian! lol I love Florida BTW.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha
...awe damn, I'm from FL, which am I then?
So how do cam gears change the fact that the exhaust side valve train can't handle the ITR exh cam?
Ya, funny he comes on talking all holier than thou, and then gets put in his place.
I have heard many times of Intake cam swaps only when using stock cams. I guess if you can't afford to buy valve train upgrades and both cams, you don't deserve to post on HondaTech, what a Floridian! lol I love Florida BTW.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
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haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he was saying was a ridicule of you...But you missed that as well..
haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he was saying was a ridicule of you...But you missed that as well..
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Re: Type R Cams (87shytwhip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 87shytwhip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both of you are very stupid.. if you dont know answers to tech related questions dont post..</TD></TR></TABLE>
?? Im just going to semi ignore this comment. i have a question for you, do you do your own research and do your own work on the engine or your parents give you money to pay the shop??
Some people work hard for their money. Some people are trying to modify their car in any way possible for the cheapest amount possible. They ask questions we give them answers. If you disagree then it sounds like a personal problem. But know your **** before calling people stupid.
By the way the question was "How good will type r cams work in a GSR with a a type R ecu" so when you run your mouth about people being stupid and morons for not doing **** your way, thats not answering his question. Telling him he has to get cam gears also dont answer his question. anyway this is why people that try to learn something remain clueless to facts thanks to idiots like you.
Good job for ruining a thread...
?? Im just going to semi ignore this comment. i have a question for you, do you do your own research and do your own work on the engine or your parents give you money to pay the shop??
Some people work hard for their money. Some people are trying to modify their car in any way possible for the cheapest amount possible. They ask questions we give them answers. If you disagree then it sounds like a personal problem. But know your **** before calling people stupid.
By the way the question was "How good will type r cams work in a GSR with a a type R ecu" so when you run your mouth about people being stupid and morons for not doing **** your way, thats not answering his question. Telling him he has to get cam gears also dont answer his question. anyway this is why people that try to learn something remain clueless to facts thanks to idiots like you.
Good job for ruining a thread...
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Re: Type R Cams (akandok)
so.. back to the main subject, if he keeps the gsr exhaust cams, and replace the gsr intake cams with itr intake cams, wouldnt it give him more power?
is it safe to run a gsr cam, and a itr cam?
why would he need to buy both the cams, if the gsr exhaust cams are similar to the itr exhaust cams'?
and what did he mean when he mentioned spring failure?
is it safe to run a gsr cam, and a itr cam?
why would he need to buy both the cams, if the gsr exhaust cams are similar to the itr exhaust cams'?
and what did he mean when he mentioned spring failure?