Comp 4 to merge with Power street
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (NOPIMAN)
What is allowed for lightening the cars? Lexan...Solid rear axle...Fuel cell...fiber glass? Or will the old Comp 4 rules apply with the no minimum weight rule?
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (Andrea)
I assume rules will remain the same with no weight minumum. I just don't think anyone would travel to run along turbo AWD's and 500whp+ FWD's on bia ply's. Thanks again for permitting bia ply's in PW/S. List of legal tires yet? Anything D.O.T. like a cheater slick?
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (dbang003)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dbang003 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like a bad deal for the comp4 guys... 
sorry timmy...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really, Drew. If there is NO minimum weight, think about it. 300whp in a 1700-1800lb chassis can go mid-10's all motor. Look what Fisher was able to do with a 2200lb minimum weight...
I think it'd be pretty cool to see an all motor car win an event in that class.
sorry timmy...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really, Drew. If there is NO minimum weight, think about it. 300whp in a 1700-1800lb chassis can go mid-10's all motor. Look what Fisher was able to do with a 2200lb minimum weight...
I think it'd be pretty cool to see an all motor car win an event in that class.
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (Andrea)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrea »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If there is NO minimum weight, think about it. 300whp in a 1700-1800lb chassis can go mid-10's all motor. Look what Fisher was able to do with a 2200lb minimum weight...
I think it'd be pretty cool to see an all motor car win an event in that class. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ditto
If there is NO minimum weight, think about it. 300whp in a 1700-1800lb chassis can go mid-10's all motor. Look what Fisher was able to do with a 2200lb minimum weight...
I think it'd be pretty cool to see an all motor car win an event in that class. </TD></TR></TABLE>
ditto
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i wouldent be suprised to see the 1600lb k cars going 10.00
the thing is with full int rules and "no lightweighting" it might be hard to get it to weigh 1600lbs.
although they 10.00 cars prob wouldent be going 135 so they would only need a 6pt
i cant wait to see it!
the thing is with full int rules and "no lightweighting" it might be hard to get it to weigh 1600lbs.
although they 10.00 cars prob wouldent be going 135 so they would only need a 6pt
i cant wait to see it!
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (one slow coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by one slow coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the c4 cars even gonna stand a chance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe the top 2-3.
The rest are SOL.
Maybe the top 2-3.
The rest are SOL.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fmfkid250 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldent be suprised to see the 1600lb k cars going 10.00
the thing is with full int rules and "no lightweighting" it might be hard to get it to weigh 1600lbs.
although they 10.00 cars prob wouldent be going 135 so they would only need a 6pt
i cant wait to see it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The pro stock cars weigh more than that. Good luck getting a full chassis car down to 1600 race weight. He said there was no minimum weight, but he did NOT say that it could be a race trim car. It still has to be a street legal car as far as I understand. 2000 lbs and 300whp all motor will be able to run 10s on a slick no problem, which will be right there with most of the Power Street guys. Sounds like a decent move for the class.
Sure there are fast AWDs, but the EVO guys don't travel, and the DSMs break every other pass
the thing is with full int rules and "no lightweighting" it might be hard to get it to weigh 1600lbs.
although they 10.00 cars prob wouldent be going 135 so they would only need a 6pt
i cant wait to see it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
The pro stock cars weigh more than that. Good luck getting a full chassis car down to 1600 race weight. He said there was no minimum weight, but he did NOT say that it could be a race trim car. It still has to be a street legal car as far as I understand. 2000 lbs and 300whp all motor will be able to run 10s on a slick no problem, which will be right there with most of the Power Street guys. Sounds like a decent move for the class.
Sure there are fast AWDs, but the EVO guys don't travel, and the DSMs break every other pass
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (word itz chris)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by word itz chris »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Maybe the top 2-3.
The rest are SOL.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly, its gonna take a solid built k series to run with that class, (and thats with the ets ps was running last season). anything else wouldnt stand a chance no matter what the weight is. there have only been a couple b series cars to run very low 11s in comp4 and those were in crxs that were already as light as possible.
sounds like a last minute plan to try and keep all the comp4 guys from going elswhere. who the hell is going to want to travel to these events w/ a comp4 car only to have their asses handed to them in PS??? sorry nopi but you get yet another big
Maybe the top 2-3.
The rest are SOL.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly, its gonna take a solid built k series to run with that class, (and thats with the ets ps was running last season). anything else wouldnt stand a chance no matter what the weight is. there have only been a couple b series cars to run very low 11s in comp4 and those were in crxs that were already as light as possible.
sounds like a last minute plan to try and keep all the comp4 guys from going elswhere. who the hell is going to want to travel to these events w/ a comp4 car only to have their asses handed to them in PS??? sorry nopi but you get yet another big
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Re: Comp 4 to merge with Power street (Missing Gears)
what nopi does not understand is that everybody doesnt have the budget that Brian and Loan are working with. and not everyone can get parts at cost or do their own work. yeah there may be a couple cars that can run w/ the PS guys, but everyone else (all the little guys/new racers) are just getting screwed.
it seemed like nopi went in the right direction last season w/ the weight min. to increase car count and for the most part i think it worked, turnout seemed alot better last season. now they say tyhey want to keep the comp4 guys and run them w/ PS. thats just going to put 90% of the comp4 guys right back to where they started, struggling to be competitive.
next thing you know nopi will start changing the rules mid season to slow down the PS guys so that the allmotor guys can keep up.
nopi, if you want to get rid of the class...get rid of it. dont play around and through some bullshit class together just to keep more $$ in your pockets. lets see, nopi was already increasing sportsman payout. so now by cutting comp4 and putting everyone in PS, they will be able to keep all the comp4 entry fee that they would have lost plus not have to pay out for comp4. its a win/win for nopi and a lose/lose for comp4.
whoever came up w/ this idea will probably be getting a nice xmas bonus.
it seemed like nopi went in the right direction last season w/ the weight min. to increase car count and for the most part i think it worked, turnout seemed alot better last season. now they say tyhey want to keep the comp4 guys and run them w/ PS. thats just going to put 90% of the comp4 guys right back to where they started, struggling to be competitive.
next thing you know nopi will start changing the rules mid season to slow down the PS guys so that the allmotor guys can keep up.
nopi, if you want to get rid of the class...get rid of it. dont play around and through some bullshit class together just to keep more $$ in your pockets. lets see, nopi was already increasing sportsman payout. so now by cutting comp4 and putting everyone in PS, they will be able to keep all the comp4 entry fee that they would have lost plus not have to pay out for comp4. its a win/win for nopi and a lose/lose for comp4.
whoever came up w/ this idea will probably be getting a nice xmas bonus.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question is how fast will the turbo fwd's go on bias ply's...</TD></TR></TABLE>
faster than last season on street tires.
i would guess the PS guys wont have too much trouble running mid-high 10s this season. how many comp4 cars have you seen run even high 10s? i have seen 2 and only 1 was consistant. its going to take a k series and alot of $$$
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Re: (Missing Gears)
this is crazy...i dont even know what to think about this class...i guess it would be ok in the beginning but then i can see Nopi makin rule changes to benefit the all motor cars like missing gears said and then its gonna be a big mess
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at least they told us now and not a few weeks before the season started like 06. So did they keep pro stock? you know everyone likes watching the same two cars over and over again
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****, they will probably combine pro stock w/ pro compact and nopi chic w/ regular brackets. that way they can keep all the $$ flowin in
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOPIMAN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We are just getting rid of Comp 4 - the class. NOT the cars. All motor cars can still run in Power Street with no minimum weight and Slicks as the power adder. The times were so close that we just merged the class.
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TRANSLATION: "we are just getting rid of the comp4 payouts, not the entry fees"
honestly, theres nothing wrong w/ keeping the rules open to allow comp4 cars to run in PS for the guys that will be fast enough or choose to. but dont say "we are xing the class and keeping the cars" thats just a bs copout to make it seem like nopi cares about "ALL" the racers and another way to try and make every last $ at each event
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOPIMAN »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We are just getting rid of Comp 4 - the class. NOT the cars. All motor cars can still run in Power Street with no minimum weight and Slicks as the power adder. The times were so close that we just merged the class.
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TRANSLATION: "we are just getting rid of the comp4 payouts, not the entry fees"
honestly, theres nothing wrong w/ keeping the rules open to allow comp4 cars to run in PS for the guys that will be fast enough or choose to. but dont say "we are xing the class and keeping the cars" thats just a bs copout to make it seem like nopi cares about "ALL" the racers
and another way to try and make every last $ at each event
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">****, they will probably combine pro stock w/ pro compact and nopi chic w/ regular brackets. that way they can keep all the $$ flowin in
TRANSLATION: "we are just getting rid of the comp4 payouts, not the entry fees"
honestly, theres nothing wrong w/ keeping the rules open to allow comp4 cars to run in PS for the guys that will be fast enough or choose to. but dont say "we are xing the class and keeping the cars" thats just a bs copout to make it seem like nopi cares about "ALL" the racers and another way to try and make every last $ at each event</TD></TR></TABLE>I have to disagree, if they were all about the money they wouldnt making choices that pushed racers away. 
TRANSLATION: "we are just getting rid of the comp4 payouts, not the entry fees"
honestly, theres nothing wrong w/ keeping the rules open to allow comp4 cars to run in PS for the guys that will be fast enough or choose to. but dont say "we are xing the class and keeping the cars" thats just a bs copout to make it seem like nopi cares about "ALL" the racers
and another way to try and make every last $ at each event</TD></TR></TABLE>I have to disagree, if they were all about the money they wouldnt making choices that pushed racers away.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efi2nr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have to disagree, if they were all about the money they wouldnt making choices that pushed racers away. </TD></TR></TABLE>
true, but the initial decision last season came down to $$(lack of sponsorship). cant really blame them, every buisness needs to look out for their bottom line. i just think they should come out and say so instead of making these poor attempts at keeping everyone happy. if not $$ then why else eliminate comp4. last seasons turnout was good wasnt it?
</TD></TR></TABLE>true, but the initial decision last season came down to $$(lack of sponsorship). cant really blame them, every buisness needs to look out for their bottom line. i just think they should come out and say so instead of making these poor attempts at keeping everyone happy. if not $$ then why else eliminate comp4. last seasons turnout was good wasnt it?
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I think that combinding the classes would be a good idea if FWD power adders stayed on drag radails and limited the AWD to a high 10's - low 11's set up as in (turbo limit).
I would like to see the class in the high 10's and low 11's. I like to keep my car on drag radails but if you allow bios ply's for the FWD's I will run them so that i can keep up with the awd's.
I would like to see the class in the high 10's and low 11's. I like to keep my car on drag radails but if you allow bios ply's for the FWD's I will run them so that i can keep up with the awd's.