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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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i have h&r race springs w/ kyb gr-2's. it rides like ****. i dont mind the stiffness, it's the shock letting the spring shoot back down when its compressed. i think my spring rates are 460lbs/in in front and 380lbs/in in rear. what shock would pair up good with my springs?
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 04:28 AM
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wow, this sites alotta help...
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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ya so many posts

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picked my up H&R springs with 2 front jdm eg shocks for £30pounds=$60bucks

it had jdm rear shocks,which where blown lol,along with some jdm lcas'




not bad hey
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Koni Sports or Tokico Illuminas depending on how much you are willing to spend.

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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shall i spend $289 on skunk2 shocks from jhpusa or get some used konis for £150pounds=$300?

i think the skunk2 are shorter meaning the ride will sit lower
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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not sure thats what they mean when they say shorter shock. they may be talking about the shock piston. All shocks by most good manufacturers should keep the ride height constant (with the expecption of koni perch adjusters). But tokcio illuminas, would be a good bang for the buck shock, that would work well with them. Also, if money is an issue, look into Koni Red. they can handle the race shocks on 3/4 stiff, and theyre a really tough shock.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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are the koni reds and agx's relatively the same shock?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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I know nothing about shocks & need the same advice. All I can say is to stay away from GR2's & Tokiko HP's as they are both pretty much stock replacements.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA6righthand &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the koni reds and agx's relatively the same shock?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the reds are not externally adjustable, the AGXs are.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Seriously don't waste your time with other shock... for you aggressive drop you need a quality shock that can handle them like the Koni Yellow (Sports).
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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on crappy 155/80/13s puttin on 185/60/14's asap
got my H&R race springs on my 1.3 95 dx single carb


stock shocks :D
how long will it be till my rear blows
then i will get koni yellows or skunk2's?
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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so which is the better shock...agx or koni reds?
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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skunk2 shocks or koni yellows take ur pic :D
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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i just got new wheels and tires and now my hatch suspension is completely done. im running the h&r race springs with koni yellows and wouldnt have it any other way. ive been in cars with KYB AGX's, Tokico Ill., Koni Reds, Billsteins, Stock OEM, and i cant think of any more and i will say that the Koni yellows BY FAR stand out as a greater shock then the said other companies.

this is both dd and raced.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcdelsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just got new wheels and tires and now my hatch suspension is completely done. im running the h&r race springs with koni yellows and wouldnt have it any other way. ive been in cars with KYB AGX's, Tokico Ill., Koni Reds, Billsteins, Stock OEM, and i cant think of any more and i will say that the Koni yellows BY FAR stand out as a greater shock then the said other companies.

this is both dd and raced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I concur, I ran the same set-up, also if you wanted to upgrade the springs to GC sleeves in the future you would have a track ready set-up. H&R race match well with Koni yellows, and you put the koni's on the lowest perch when u install them, too have a lower ride height. I loved the way they felt, great daily driver set-up
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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You really cant go wrong with Koni Yellows. If you use your spring rates w/ the AGX they will have a hard time keeping up. The Koni's are one step below a full coilover damper and the warranty is awesome
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elpanopticon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Koni's are one step below a full coilover damper and the warranty is awesome </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's kind of a broad statement. They're many levels above most "full coilovers" on the market these days, although there are a few that are a level above.
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If you can deal with "set and forget" the koni reds are excellent, and would work with those springs on 1/2 - 3/4 stiff. Theyre really tough, and cheaper than the yellows by a fair bit. Id go reds over AGX having had both, but AGX arent bad either.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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That's kind of a broad statement. They're many levels above most "full coilovers" on the market these days, although there are a few that are a level above. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, now that I think back on it, your right.
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H&R race will blow out a red. It's not designed to withstand that lack of shock travel. The valving isn't aggressive enough.
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whos got H&R race springs on koni yellows?

what are ur opinions......
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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i've got h&r springs...no koni yellows. i got a deal on agx's...but i think im just going to buy tein basics or super streets.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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anyone i've met with

H&R race + tokico illuminas = loved them

H&R race + konis = loved them

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whos got H&R race springs on koni yellows?

what are ur opinions......</TD></TR></TABLE>

u cant go wrong with the koni yellows, simple as that. They provide a smooth ride, and they handle the 2.75" front and the 2.25" rear drop with no problem.
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