Which would be better for more low/mid end?

 

Your not going to notice either way. Just get the cheaper one.

platinum.

 

i plan on getting an ebay one, so im just askin

 

if youre looking for low/mid as you stated=4-2-1

 

please do not get a header off of ebay, that would be a waste of money and time.

however, to answer your question a 4-2-1 header frees up more power in the mid rpm range. A 4-1 header will free up more power in the upper rpm range due to less restriction on the exhaust flow. i would personally get the 4-2-1 header unless your making 300+ whp, or if your car is for the strip then go with the 4-1 header. is your motor stock or are you building it for higher rpms? if so go with the 4-1 header, but if the car is just your daily driver just get the 4-2-1. o yeah, if your motor is stock and you dont have any other bolt-ons, you will probably not notice any power gains.

 

im in high school, dont have the cash for a nice header. Ill probably go with a megan racing header, and i will be getting a AEM Dryflow intake pretty soon ( just the filter ). BTW I have a y8, so it will be harder to improve in the header department right?

 

you can pickup an edelbrock full stainless proflow/shorty 4-2-1 for d series (part 6792) for $132 new not sure how it compares to the megan, but i'm sure it beats the run of the mill ebay stuff.

 

hf mani with a 14b = best NA header

 

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Wont that be nice! Wish I could....

 

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i understand the whole not having cash thing, trust me(im a freshman in college). anyways, your just gonna end up spending more money if you buy **** off of ebay b/c you will end up having to replace it because it will break. you are right about not being able to improve the power much from just a header. if you ever do build your motor for higher compression or higher rpms, then i would suggest getting a good header; as for now save your money and do something else to improve the performance that you will actually notice. nitrous is the best hp/$ gain, just make sure to get your car tuned and dont overspray if you decide to do nitrous. if i were you, id personally save for a good QUALITY turbo kit, you will def see the best results from a turbo on a D series motor.

 

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nuff said

 

i would love to have a turbo D. Id be happy with a greddy kit! But my dad would bitch all day if I did something like that, cause he knows why I would be doing it and also cause he has a wrx and knows what a slug can do. Im just thinking that for about 130 i can get a megan racing header, for another 70 a generic intake with good filter. Ill spend like 200 and ill be happy with a nice midrange bump.

 

Ebay = Crap
Ebay Headers = Poor welds
Ebay Headers with poor welds = CRACKS
Crack headers =

Do it once to it right save the cash get something good and youll be away laughing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turnsignalandy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would love to have a turbo D. Id be happy with a greddy kit! But my dad would bitch all day if I did something like that, cause he knows why I would be doing it and also cause he has a wrx and knows what a slug can do. Im just thinking that for about 130 i can get a megan racing header, for another 70 a generic intake with good filter. Ill spend like 200 and ill be happy with a nice midrange bump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, our dads must be related somehow, LOL. anyways, its your car, do what you want. You get what you pay for, just remember that. If I were you I'd make sure i saved my OEM parts b/c i would not feel safe with cheap aftermarket stuff. Im currently saving for the Greddy turbo kit and I think it will be well worth it once i have got it.

if you do ever plan to turbo your car then def dont buy a header and intake. you will just end up replacing those parts with the turbo set up. Instead buy a quality exhuast that will be compatible with your turbo, or upgrade the transmission/clutch, or maybe work on the suspension/brakes; those will occupy you until you have the funds to turbo your D. IMO a turbo D would be the most fun, def more fun than a D with an intake and header. With the intake and header you will be lucky to net 5 whp, however, if you get a turbo you could have around 180-200whp. 105whp&lt;200whp .

good luck with whatever you choose and please think real hard before investing in cheap parts

 

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Ebay Headers = Poor welds
Ebay Headers with poor welds = CRACKS
Crack headers =
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I have had an ebay header for 6 months and my friend has had one about 18-20 months.

daily driven. no problems.

 

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You won't notice anything at all. Save your money. Trust me, I've been through it before.

 

4-2-1 for the win

 

Ditto... For a year. No Problem's 4-2-1 For $60 If it cracks I will buy another.

 

iff u geta better cat and full exhaust. u dont need a header the stock 1 is better than anything u can buy off ebay dispite the looks

 

actually got my 4-2-1 header off ebay a year ago, no problems since, plus i paid 37 bucks... a 4-2-1 is a 4-2-1 just like a cold air intake is a cold air intake and shouldnt be 100 bucks.. its not going to break.. the only thing i wouldnt get on ebay is one of the generic mufflers.. ill still with my magnaflow but i do have full cat back pipes from ebay, they are bigger than oem and for some reason they arent broken yet.. hmm...most of us arent rich thats why we drive civics..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Minglor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had an ebay header for 6 months and my friend has had one about 18-20 months.

daily driven. no problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

+1 No problems for 8+ months.

 

$572.67!!!!!!!!

http://www.shop.com/op/~DC_Spo...d=298


$53.95!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1


now please someone point out the HIGH PERFORMANCE difference you get for $518.72!!!!!!

same size runners, same design.. never heard of an ebay header cracking.. can anyone justify the extra 5 bills?..

 

had to rub this one in lol..
$143.64!!!!!!!! for a pipe?
http://www.autocarparts.com/part/269/97/

another prime example a simple short ram intake..

ebay baby...

$31.95!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

same thing?.. oh im sorry u have to fab a mount for it? wooo hoo..