I'm thinking about to instal a turbo into my 99 SH. I was thinking to buy a full kit off ebay for 1-1.5k. And instal ARP head studs, Now How do i do break in??? And what psi do i run it at, right after instalment? Im new to Turbo, but i have done some all motor builds before. Any help will be Great, thanx! (I just dont wana mess up my motor)
So pretty much this will be a high comp turbo motor.


Note: I will be putting in low comression pisons later down the road.

(The turbo kit has everything needed to run, with intercooler too)

PROBLEM FIXED... SKREW THE BOOST, IM GOING NA WAY!!!!


Modified by mafia at 8:54 PM 11/26/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mafia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm thinking about to instal a turbo into my 99 SH. I was thinking to buy a full kit off ebay for 1-1.5k. And instal ARP head studs, Now How do i do break in??? And what psi do i run it at, right after instalment? Im new to Turbo, but i have done some all motor builds before. Any help will be Great, thanx! (I just dont wana mess up my motor)
So pretty much this will be a high comp turbo motor.


Note: I will be putting in low comression pisons later down the road.

(The turbo kit has everything needed to run, with intercooler too)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds like you need more knowledge about a serious build-up. There's a Forced Induction link at the FAQs thread at the top of the page. Great info.

Also, you shouldn't go turbo in a SH. The ATTS can't handle big power/torque.

EDIT: eBay stuff are crap, BTW.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mafia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm thinking about to instal a turbo into my 99 SH. I was thinking to buy a full kit off ebay for 1-1.5k. And instal ARP head studs, Now How do i do break in??? And what psi do i run it at, right after instalment? Im new to Turbo, but i have done some all motor builds before. Any help will be Great, thanx! (I just dont wana mess up my motor)
So pretty much this will be a high comp turbo motor.


Note: I will be putting in low comression pisons later down the road.

(The turbo kit has everything needed to run, with intercooler too)</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your installing headstuds why not put in a thicker headgasket to lower the compression a tad when your installing the headstuds? There isn't really a way to break in a motor that is already been ran for xxx amount of miles your not rebuilding it or adding new rings ect so there is nothing to "break in". I am not a fan of ebay turbo stuff you get what you pay for IMO. But stick to 6-8 psi get it tuned and have fun detonation will kill your motor.

 

Were can i get a thicker headgasket? And how much psi can i run on stock ecu? Like 1psi?) Were im from there is no tune shop near ... (but i would get it tunned like 2-3 weeks after turbo is on. Sound good? (not really to me ....)

 

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Also, you shouldn't go turbo in a SH. The ATTS can't handle big power/torque.

EDIT: eBay stuff are crap, BTW.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So how much can it handle?

 

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Cometic is where you can get a thicker headgasket. You cannot boost a stock ECU as soon as that map sensor reads any type of boost its gonna go nuts ( look into a cheap FMU atleast). I would recommend you do alot more research before you attempt to install this turbo kit to save yourself headache.

 

Probably about 250hp tops

 

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Sounds like you need more knowledge about a serious build-up. There's a Forced Induction link at the FAQs thread at the top of the page. Great info.

Also, you shouldn't go turbo in a SH. The ATTS can't handle big power/torque.

EDIT: eBay stuff are crap, BTW.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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i remember some guy on here boosted his sh and atts got messed.
yeah 250 is about as much as it can handle.
you could always just remove atts.

 

so a BLOX SILVER FMU 12:1 HONDA CIVIC ACURA INTEGRA DRAG GSR Sound right? (And yes im currently looking into this)

 

and a Cometic head gaskit right... Im at there site and i dont see how they are thicker This is what it says "87mm MLS .030" C4252-030 1 $86.50" Or is that allready thicker? And whats the stock bore size 87mm? And if i Order a custom head gaskit how thick should i get it?

 

You have A LOT to learn before you go Turbo. Please read the FAQ I bet the majority of your questions will be answered there and then some. On a stock block though it can handle around 6-8psi. I've seen upwards of 10, but it all depends on tuning. Your rings are the weakest part.


Modified by 94Vtecluder at 9:36 PM 11/26/2006

 

Hondata is the way to go for tuning. Don't bother with FMUs or VAFC's.

Here's a GREAT thread on building something boosted:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=783372

Read it, and get educated on this stuff. I sure did.

 

So i HAVE to take it to a tune shop?

 

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I'm gonna just pass on some common knowledge:

Reliability. Fast. Cheap.

Pick 2 of the above.

Anyways, YES, you'll have to get it tuned. Tuning goes hand in hand with how reliable your build is gonna be.

 

I have allreaddy read that thread and it all about like 30 psi boost. I just want 6-8 psi for now. I dont want to spend too much. So your saying if i get Head studs new thicker head gaskit and a hodata computer and it tuned by a shop. Then will a be able to run 6 psi safe, knowing that Nothing will go wroung? (or at least hopeing nothing will go wroung.)

 

and what hondata ecu will be the best for me you think?

 

Hondata doesn't sell stand-alone ECUs. They simply modify Honda ECUs so they can do more than what's dictated by the factory (boost control, A/F maps, etc). Go check out Hondata's website for more info.

Here's the link: http://www.hondata.com/aboutus.html

 

Ok i WIll and do u know if AEM EMS programible engine management system is any good?

 

You can go with AEM, but nothign runs a Honda better than a Honda ECU, albeit modified. That's why most guys go with Hondata.

 

you should really listen to ppl in here.

you obviously don't know much about the subject (as seen by your questions)

either pay a reputable shop to do it, or do ALOT more research (and reading a few threads here and there doesn't count)

 

So if i get a hondata s100 boost version and and take it to a hondata dealer (shop that deales with them for them to tune it) and put a head studs a thicker head gaskit and the turbo kit on... I can run 6-8 PSI with no problems right? Or will i have to upgrade fuel and air stuff? I just want to get this right the 1st time, And im hoping for at least 6 psi. Thanx for all your help.

 

you really don't get it right? there are so many variables that go into a turbo setup.

and if you "want to get this right the 1st time" why don't you do some more research instead of asking these somewhat meaningless questions.

 

And one more problem i found out. If i change to a obd1 p13 ecu and put S100 Hondata on there my ATTS will not work right?? So what will be the right program for this (for my boost and atts to work?)

 

petern101, I'm just trying to get 8 psi out of my H22... Everywere i read about boosted motors it tells you how to run 20-30 PSI, I just want 8 PSI.

 

It looks like you're willing to read and listen, but one thing is you're never going to get the information you need from this thread since it's been over and thousand times on Honda-Tech. Start searching. Each one of your questions you've asked it on here somewhere with tons of information behind it.

If you are in dire need of running ATTS and FI. I would go with a fuel pump, FPR, and larger injectors (no bigger than 440cc) and a VAFC. Then go get it tuned at 6psi. With a great tune, a thicker headgasket and some reasonable driving you could have pretty (12 months?) reliable car.

Good luck though.